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Originally Posted by YanasaurBBQ
If he jammed turn over my bet i think i would have to call just because of the SPR and the fact i have the additional equity with the flush draw and he could have AK as well or feel like he has to jam w AQs for protection. If I had AQ w no flush draw I could fold.
Do you agree?
I do agree, in this spot, with your hand, against this V, yes, I think we have to call.
It's interesting that in that scenario, we can give him AQs, which our AK beats, and we have the flush draw as backup if we're not already ahead.
This, I think, supports what I was saying in our little debate - when we (or in that other hand, V) donk here, we could be ahead, or at least drawing live with decent equity to improve, so jamming over the smallish turn donk doesn't necessarily create as much fold equity or deny as much equity as we might think, to whatever extent the turn donk isn't always / only a naked draw with a ~20% chance to get there.
Also, as an aside, sometimes the gut feeling that V is super-strong isn't just MUBS. Sometimes it's our sub-conscious trying to warn us about a very real threat. Seems like your gut feeling was spot on here, and as hard as it may have been to do it, you might have found a hero fold prior to the river, if not on the river.