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/2 NLH w/  to open and help against turn raise /2 NLH w/  to open and help against turn raise

08-29-2023 , 06:15 PM
I have been playing for a few hours and it has been a slow game and generally straightforward action.

$2/2 NLH with $5 to open and I cover everyone but the effective stack is $450. I am in the CO with K K and I raise to $40 after UTG2 opens for $10 and only UTG2 calls (he started the hand with $450). UTG2 was a younger player who doubled up with AA vs QQ on his first hand and has been slowly chipping down.

After rake, ~$75 pre-flop in the pot and heads up.

10 9 4 ♥︎♥︎♦︎ I bet $45 and UTG2 calls. $165 in the pot.

6 ♦︎ I bet $60 and UTG2 raises to $160. After the raise, the pot has $385 and $100 to call and UTG2 has about $200 behind.

Thoughts on what I should do now (as well as my bet sizing on all streets)? Thanks.
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08-29-2023 , 06:36 PM
Tough.

I tend to find that call flop, raise turn tends to be an uber strong line. I think you're likely up against a set or straight, and this is the decision point where we decide if we're playing for stacks.

I think I might just let it go.
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08-29-2023 , 07:29 PM
I like a fold. The guy got all his money in once with AA and doubled up. You say the table is straightforward. 78 just came in. Seems like the type to have maybe every combo of 78o in his range the way you describe him chipping down. Usually thats from playing way too many hands. Anyways I fold. If I get shown a bluff it will be rare if the table is this straightforward. If shown a bluff just say you didnt think there was any way that AK was still good and tell him nice hand.

Not a huge fan of the turn sizing, and the board is such that I think you can bet fold a larger amount or check. One reason I would use that turn sizing you used is if the villain was passive and sticky.
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08-30-2023 , 01:46 AM
I think you could bet even bigger OTF. You're targeting good draws, worse overpairs and top pairs. People rarely seem to fold any of those on the flop, and I don't think bet size factors into it much.

I think the turn is fine, though again I might do 1/2 pot. But I like the general pattern of bomb the flop, then get more milky on following streets.

I concur on a fold here. You 3! pre. Bet the flop hard. Reasonable turn bet. It sure looks like you have a strong hand, and this is not when most people bluff.
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08-31-2023 , 01:32 AM
Bet flop larger, turn a bit bigger. Fold as played and pretty easy fold tbh.
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08-31-2023 , 10:51 PM
If we bet fold KK here, what hands would we bet call? Seems like it is TT, 99 and 76s, which is quite few combos?

If this is the case would turn check have been a better play?
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09-01-2023 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by whoopsie
If we bet fold KK here, what hands would we bet call? Seems like it is TT, 99 and 76s, which is quite few combos?

If this is the case would turn check have been a better play?
You'll also be continuing with all nut flush draws.


Checking hands you are willing to bet fold is just leaving money on the table unless it's a spot where villain only ever folds or raises.....which is rare.


For example, we'd be leaving a ton of money on table if V has QQ, JJ, ATs, KTs, and draws.
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09-01-2023 , 07:28 AM
As played, turn sizing needs to be around $115.

That'll have you jamming for $250 into about a $400 pot on river if he just calls your turn bet.




With such a small sizing on turn, I might be more inclined to call here *if* I think villain is capable of raising because the small bet looks so weak.


It's probably a coin flip once you bet that small. I don't think calling or folding is going to be "wrong."
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09-04-2023 , 07:58 PM
Thanks everyone for your thoughts; I was eyeing his remaining stack and if he was capable, I do not think I could call off the remaining $200 if he jams on the river. I also 3bet and put his range on pairs for a set and possibly 2 pairs or the straight; I did not think he was raising with smaller pairs and the only viable bluff was a flush draw. I did not think he had it in him to bluff raise so I did fold. Unfortunately, he showed A 2 hearts for the nut flush draw. I think my bet sizing was on the smaller side and may have induced him to bluff. Lesson learned.
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09-04-2023 , 08:56 PM
Raise bigger pf and bet the turn larger.
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