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09-30-2013 , 08:31 PM
I was playing in a 2/2 raked 6 handed game and the table agrees to put out a mandatory straddle to 4 for the rest of the night. Everybody bought in for the max 500 dollars and there were subsequent reloads. The table plays 72 bounty game, $10 from every players.

Hero: Early 20s. Play regularly in town for quite some time. I view myself as a standard tag, but my image at the table has been viewed as (occasional bluffer) turning some draws or pair into bluffs when villain showed weakness. The table likes to speech me into showing my hand because they think i was bluffing. There are instances where a reg villain called me with TP decent kicker on super dry after triple barreling.

V1 ($1k): Big regular in town same age as me, we both had a lot of histories and respect for each other. He wont mess around with me so far as i know, we had discuss hands over a beer once in a while.

V2 ($500): Well built, buff and neat looking guy. Very talkative and friendly, his conversation to the table is trying to sell he has a super tight player. And often joke about flop is too expensive to even peek. Looks like a standard player to me. I have played with him for a few session but not much info about his tendency except he limps a lot and have very little positional awareness but plays decently postflop. Have seen him 3b squeeze in SB with T9s after Fish 1 raise and Fish 2 call preflop. Flop OE+FD and GII vs Fish 1.

V3 ($1k): Early 30s man Super rock NIT. He's live Vpip/PFR is basically 9/5. Limp/Raise a lot due to 2 Fishes sitting to his immediately left.

Fish 1 ($1.2k): Raise any PP to 100 PF. Doesn't seem to call off a lot but he doesn't seem like he knows when to bet and when to raise. There's once he raise 100 with 44 and was second pair to the flop he bet 200 into 200+ pot and V1 called. Then bet 200 on turn and river when 2 scare card came off. His bet sizing kinda reflects his hand strength.

Fish 2 ($500): This guy had lots of uncompleted tattoos all over his body with no colors. Super station and super loose. He lost over 5k that night.


Table was pretty loose there was lots of limping, and its always heads up to the flop between Fish 1 and 2.


Hand 1
Just sat down at the table with $500 in the BB holding 67.
Everybody calls the straddle and i called. Straddle check his options.

Flop ($24) : 589
I lead the flop for $20. And V2 makes it $60. All folded and i decided to call. At this point since he limped pretty wide. I put him on 2 pair hands, TJc, QJc kind hand.
My plan is to keep my range wide from 96, 97, 89, 87, FD, JT, T7 to combo draw. I will check raise any blank turn. But if i 3b flop to say 150 and he calls, i will only have a PSB left on the turn and leaves me to no option but to check fold to any club or pair board on the turn.

Turn ($144) : K
I checked and he bet relatively big $120. Hero?
If i call i have roughly 300 left and 380 to the river. He has to have it most of the time right? At this point, looking at the size of the bet on turn and the fact that i flat his raise on the flop to make my hand look like some kinda 2 pair type of hand he must have a flush



Hand 2
A few hours towards the night. Fish 1 reloaded twice. Fish 2 reloaded 5 times. At this point they play very straight forward with me. My showdowns are mostly premiums.

Fish 1 ($1k) calls, Fish 2 ($1k) calls, Hero ($1.6k) iso squeeze raise from btn 65 to $20 all folds to Fish 2 who calls.

Flop ($56): 663
Fish 2 checks, Hero bets $30 and Fish 2 check/raise to $60. Hero calls

Turn ($176): J
Fish 2 bets $100, Hero calls

River ($376):4
Fish 2 bets $120, Hero?

I know i'm definitely beat here. Fish 2 did not do check raise all night and bet this small. Among all the possible 6x i only beat 62. Can i fold here?
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09-30-2013 , 09:18 PM
hand 1: 3-bet flop.

hand 2: depending on my read, i might fold to the check raise.
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09-30-2013 , 11:00 PM
Ya hand 1 if you are going to fold to any club turn card, you should be looking to get it in on the flop while you have he nuts. Hand 2 seems super sick as you basically hit gin on that flop with your semi bluff squeeze.

You mentioned he is a super station I don't think folding is possible given that discription but the min check raise seems to rep the nuts If he is as bad as he seems this is def not a level. For that price I never fold I am just looking to get a cheap show down after that damn min raise.
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10-01-2013 , 01:00 AM
Hand 1- 3bet flop.

Hand 2- Call river. You beat too many hands not to, and the river bet size is weird for how straightforward hes playing.

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10-01-2013 , 04:00 AM
hand 1 3bet flop to? say i 3b to 150 and check/fold pair board or any club? ~340 behind turn pot size is 370...
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10-01-2013 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DEAR SKANK
hand 1 3bet flop to? say i 3b to 150 and check/fold pair board or any club? ~340 behind turn pot size is 370...
I would 3 bet the flop in hand 1. However, I am interested in everyone's answer regarding if you should c/f to the board pairing or a club on the turn. This is a situation I struggle with too.
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10-01-2013 , 11:32 PM
Hand 1 - 3Bet the flop. Its too wet to allow another card to peel off.

Hand 2 - Call.
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10-02-2013 , 12:12 AM
Hand 1 I'd 3bet; villain has a range that doesn't fold so just get money in.

Hand 2 I probably call down, meh. It's true though because of J turn the chance of him having value hands that aren't trips is fairly low.
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10-02-2013 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Beckjl727
I would 3 bet the flop in hand 1. However, I am interested in everyone's answer regarding if you should c/f to the board pairing or a club on the turn. This is a situation I struggle with too.
yeah, the problem is the turn since we are OOP... are what is the optimum 3b size. if we make it 150 we have 90% PSB left on the turn.
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10-02-2013 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloudflips123
Hand 1- 3bet flop.

Hand 2- Call river. You beat too many hands not to, and the river bet size is weird for how straightforward hes playing.

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hand 1, yes 3b flop to? turn action? what if its a blank?
hand 2, and the fact that he's straight forward, i cant put him on a bluff.
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10-02-2013 , 08:43 AM
Hand 1:
You say that if you 3! then you only have a pot sized bet left behind, and you might have to give up on the turn if a club comes, or if the board pairs.
There are only 9 board pairing cards, and only 8 other club cards.

That means that if you 3! the flop, there is only a ~35% chance that the board will do something scary on you. That means that 65% of the time you are still winning. Let along the times that the board pairs, or a club falls and he doesn't have that particular draw.

It is an easy 3! on the flop, and it's not even close. You flopped the nuts and there are a lot of cards that can come and make your life harder on the turn, or possibly give you not the best hand. Lets pump the pot against a villain who clearly wants to put money in here, and get value while we are winning.
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10-03-2013 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Hand 1:
You say that if you 3! then you only have a pot sized bet left behind, and you might have to give up on the turn if a club comes, or if the board pairs.
There are only 9 board pairing cards, and only 8 other club cards.

That means that if you 3! the flop, there is only a ~35% chance that the board will do something scary on you. That means that 65% of the time you are still winning. Let along the times that the board pairs, or a club falls and he doesn't have that particular draw.

It is an easy 3! on the flop, and it's not even close. You flopped the nuts and there are a lot of cards that can come and make your life harder on the turn, or possibly give you not the best hand. Lets pump the pot against a villain who clearly wants to put money in here, and get value while we are winning.
3b to? and what should i do on turn if the is club or a pair board? x/f? x/c? x/shove?
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