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06-01-2016 , 04:27 PM
1/2. 300 max

raise to 20 or three bet to 50.

Any chance to win pot on flop. raise all in or check raise all in.

Once his stack was large, he would make a bet or raise on the flop that effectively put you past the commitment threshold.

If he felt there was any remote chance of opponent folding he would do this with any pair, any gut shot, two overs, any premium draw, and sometimes a pure bluff.

I consider myself an okay player, not a nit, but I had a hard time. Every pot played was for stacks, and most guys backed down unless they had a set or OP.

I won 600, but he showed me something that seemed to work pretty well against a normal LV lineup of local nits and casual tourists. Lot of guys got broke waiting for hands.
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06-01-2016 , 04:37 PM
Then play back at him.

Otherwise play the other players. You may be making a biased conclusion based on the small sample size.
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06-01-2016 , 04:47 PM
as someone once put it, imagine investing in stocks which you know are going to go down.

playing too many hands is a leak and easily exploitable, a guy like him will not win long term.
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06-01-2016 , 04:58 PM
I see this every so often at 1/2. Some new player comes in an plays LAG/borderline maniac and wins big for a while. Then they run into some stations that just won't fold TP and will call even lighter sometimes or some players with a good sense of range. And then they lose a huge stack fast.

This style can work against some easily exploitable weak/tight tables but against stations or decent players it loses a lot of money fast. Because they are over betting a lot they lose money faster when things go badly then they make money when it goes well.
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06-01-2016 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
I see this every so often at 1/2. Some new player comes in an plays LAG/borderline maniac and wins big for a while. Then they run into some stations that just won't fold TP and will call even lighter sometimes or some players with a good sense of range. And then they lose a huge stack fast.

This style can work against some easily exploitable weak/tight tables but against stations or decent players it loses a lot of money fast. Because they are over betting a lot they lose money faster when things go badly then they make money when it goes well.
No doubt. I have been around a while and have seen it too. But games have gotten pretty tight in LV, and if he just was a little more selective......

He didn't even win that much and had huge swings, but a part of me thought that a lot of his plays made sense. He never called off just hoping, it was always putting the other guy to the decision, and really how great is the decision making power of your average LV 1-3 grinder?

Whatever, just ruminating and looking to adapt a little. I have been playing way too many sessions with locals and it just becomes a cooler trading contest. Trying to learn to mix it up.
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06-01-2016 , 05:19 PM
On that topic, I watched a youtube vid of a game recently... one of the player was doing exactly this... essentially unrelenting aggression (opened $75 at a 2/5/10 game about 75%)... i didn't watch the whole game but i was amazed at how successful he was.
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06-01-2016 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SqredII
I have been playing way too many sessions with locals and it just becomes a cooler trading contest. Trying to learn to mix it up.
There's prob room to play a few more hands, adjust sizing, barrel, and take pieces between the coolers.
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06-01-2016 , 05:36 PM
LOL @ true lag in LLSNL.

I saw an unicorn the other day, too.
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06-01-2016 , 06:36 PM
I guess I don't know what a true LAG by higher stakes standards is. All I know that it was the first time I have ever seen this type of player in a small stakes LV game. Played over 50%, continually bet, raised, or check raised every hand he decided to go with on the flop. Won a ton of pots with no show, got full value on his good hands, and inevitably ran into top set, which he usually lost but a couple times sucked out.

Almost seemed like a higher stakes player on a bender. It's rare to have to think about how to proceed in a SSNL game after getting raised, but it happened every hand in this game.
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06-01-2016 , 07:30 PM
There is a 1/3 whale (sounds funny I know) in my player pool that shows up once a month or so playing exactly like this. You know he was there when you see the nitty regs sitting on black chips. You know he's still there when bravo board reads:

AB (to 11)
BC (to 11)
DE (to 11)

You can however learn some good stuff about how others respond to threatening bets. This information can be useful in spots.

cAtheworldisnyteacherAm
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06-01-2016 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
LOL @ true lag in LLSNL.

I saw an unicorn the other day, too.

Prolly pulled its tail.
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06-01-2016 , 09:33 PM
Bring on the LAGtards and Maniacs...

So he's actually a good LAG?

I know this guy who plays 1/2 & LLSNL @ the same casino i do very frequently and he's won a WSOP bracelet, been to EPT's, pretty much plays mid stakes poker and high stakes live MTT's with various cashes etc...

He's one of the only good LAG's i've EVERR met @ a 1/2 game btw. Not surprisingly the 1/2 game is one of the juiciest games in all of canada.

Finding good LAG's @ LLSNL can be a rare occurrence usually they are @ the really good games, i figure it's a waste of there time to continue to play 1/2 most of the good LAG's are at higher stakes.

Tldr; Good LAG's @ 1/2 are a rare breed
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06-02-2016 , 07:33 AM
I just played with a guy like this the other week at aria. 50 preflop, open shove flop, etc. He lost a 2k stack in an hour or two (at 1/2), culminating in getting way too drunk at the table, causing a hand to be stopped for video to be pulled, and losing his last couple hundred with k high.
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