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03-03-2009 , 06:02 AM

RosaParks

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,887

Poker Stars $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players - View hand 54891
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Hero (UTG): $2144.00
mustanggino (UTG+1): $1016.25
djalminha (MP): $1057.00
MissSarah9 (CO): $1558.00
Pokemyface85 (BTN): $1000.00
amofu (SB): $1938.80
VLfreq (BB): $985.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is UTG with Q

Hero raises to $30, 5 folds, VLfreq raises to $68, Hero calls $38

Flop: ($141.00) T

(2 players)
VLfreq bets $45, Hero calls $45

Turn: ($231.00) 7

(2 players)
VLfreq bets $118, Hero calls $118

River: ($467.00) 4

(2 players)
VLfreq bets $754 all in, Hero?

Much to my detriment I'm not using a HUD cause vista blows nuts. I haven't really seen villain around and I'm assuming he's bad but hes sporting red stars so he must have played at least a few hands. Do you guys call this? If so what are you expecting to see?

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03-03-2009 , 06:23 AM

sparky999

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if i call i am hoping to see AKss but tbh i don't know how often he has that, decision is a lot tougher without any history/stats etc can u giv a rough estimate of his 3 bet%, have you seen him 3 bet small and C bet small with monsters previously etc?
i guess u can just fold and look for a better spot to play for stacks but i feel like we are fodling the best hand some percentage of the time but i don't know what that percentage would be, we have to be right here a lot to make it a call and i just don't know if we are good enough without some kind of read

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03-03-2009 , 09:38 AM

Artanis11

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,402

Villain's line makes no sense at all. I call.

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03-03-2009 , 10:26 AM

LSP16

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 752

I think I fold here.

We need some more info on the vilain to justify a call imo.

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03-03-2009 , 12:46 PM

DoubleFly

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,983

If you have no read, and haven't seen him jam the river before, I fold.

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03-03-2009 , 12:52 PM

jimmyvjv13

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Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,975

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Originally Posted by LSP16

I think I fold here.

We need some more info on the vilain to justify a call imo.

I think I am in this ^ boat. The only thing swaying my opinion here is his turn bet. Normally, I see small flop bets with AA or KK, followed by pot sized or close to that turn bets. His turn bet is just so small that it is really confusing to me. This is like a 40/60. But I still probably tank and fold tho.

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03-03-2009 , 02:10 PM

lastout

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 129

if u raised somewhere on the first 3 streets u wouldnt need to ask this question.
i think this line is actually nuts(qq beat),even tho it seeminlgy make no sense. as played, i would fold it.

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03-03-2009 , 02:14 PM

veryblind

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 420

i think this kind of river bet is intentionally made to cause this kind of confusing. a good player will mix it up between a pure bluff and the nuts. i don't think there's much reasoning to it. just flip a coin and hit the fold/call button.

i would probably fall into the calling camp just b/c our hand is so underrepresented.
but i would also factor in how much value there is in keeping a large stack, i may fold and try to push my stack around if there is value in it

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03-03-2009 , 04:14 PM

Delphi

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 618

On NL100 I would say 45 just made twopair ;-)

Nah, it's a fold to me.

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