Game: NLHE $5-$20 on button, no blinds, short handed, game is deeper than usual, everyone has $300 or more

Villian: New to game, first time at establishment, bought in short and has run it up in a couple big hands against the rest of the LAG Donkeys at the table

Hero: Coolered from $500 to $100 with AA getting cracked by QJ by one of the "gambly" players, then won an all-in 4 ways with QQ.

Hero: BTN Effective stacks $550
Villian: UTG(SB)

Villian Limps $10
3 limps behind
Hero with 93 checks

Flop ($50): A24

Villian bets $50
Folds to Hero
Hero raises to $200 (type of player who will give me a free card with two pair, set type hands, mainly because he has seen me play hands like 35o)
Villain Calls $150

Turn($450): 10
Villian Checks
Hero Checks

River($450): 10
Villian Checks
Hero is all in for $340
Villain calls with 35o and says "Do you have the flush" (which obv did not get there, hence he misread the board, makes me think he would have paid me off with FH and Flush)


Aside from the "Don't overplay 93" Was this a reputable line? River bet just not big enough to get him to fold the better hand? All thoughts appreciated

What sort of hands do you think that he calls you with on the flop when you raise?
Of that range of hands, how many of them do you think that he folds to your river shove?

Clearly not sets, 50/50 on AK/AQ type hands.
Never straights.
Maybe flush draws.

If I wanted to bet here, I'd likely bet like $150 in case he was on a flush draw. That's one of the best hands that we can get a fold from.

Overall something seems pretty ugly about the hand, I just can't really decide what about it. I might just fold the flop. I don't love drawing to the 9 high flush in a limped pot.

But I'm a nit sometimes. And I don't straddle.

all good except the river bet. i just check river

because u rep nothing on the river. once you check turn your range pretty much becomes draws and bluffcatchers

Spew spew spew. The raise check bomb line looks very very skeptical and not often believable.

Fold pre

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Very constructive.

Open folding when you can see flop for free is worse than "fold pre" post

I hate the limp with 93.

All depends on what range you put villian on. I'm not a huge fan on the flop raise.. and he calls, so what does he have?

Not a set, not a straight draw, not two pair. I doubt he's calling with a flush draw. In fact, with the flat, I'd never put him on the straight. Why would he flat, when he can clearly get it all here, and so many turn cards kill his hand. The chances are he'll pretty much always show up with A10+ here

Is he folding the river, when he called the flop and you checked the turn?

It wasn't a limp....i checked my option

You should have said yes you do have the flush, show it confidently, and wait for him to muck.

Once you checked the turn you showed your weakness... So once that happened any good player will prob be calling your shove on the river.. So u should have gave up on the hand once u checked the turn unless u hit the flush....

Nice try on Flop but I dont think you needed to go that big against a 'new' player who I think obv has something with a pot sized bet.

Once he calls Flop you are in a tough spot on Turn but I think you need to barrel here again to 'verify' he has a hand and then you just need to give up on River.

Obv you caught V with a 5-card hand here but based on his comment I dont think is even folding Ax on River ... calling stations cant be bluffed!!

Against 'random' opponent holdings this line will rep either Ax or flush draw and I think barreling Turn is a better use of your chips, especially after the board pairs to counterfeit any 2 pair you may have had. Would you not have raised your straddle with a big Ace? This particular opponent may not have been smart enough to recognize that but there are a lot out there that wouldve.

What hands would you expect to fold out on River. Only missed flush draws really as played. I think most 'under' pairs would fold to a Turn barrel. How many opponents will give you credit for the 10cXc on River ... unfortunately not this guy.

This is a good post if you can ignore the fact that your opponent ended up with a 5-card holding and is never folding here. GL

My mistake, disregard that part of my post

If you are raising flop to "get a free card" then you should be raising smaller. Raising $150 isn't really getting a free card... I doubt he fires another PSB on turn of $150. So if that was your goal, then you are probably costing yourself more money than flatting flop and flatting turn. I doubt you have much FE here when the villain leads with a PSB in EP a limped pot.

As played the bet on the river is a big spew...

VS an opponent who is such a station its way better just to call, save some money, and then bet for value when you get there.

Also... he's seen you play 35o.

Some solid insight here, preciate the comment Ar

if you x/r flop and check turn what are you repping? (exactly what you have, FD) x/r on the flop with draws occasionally is fine but then you have to either continue turn or just shut down if you dont hit. betting this river almost never gets an A to fold.

If this is the case, then this is a great play with a flopped set, I will keep that in mind

Absolutely no chance he's folding the river unless he has a higher flush draw than you that missed. You have to ship the turn if you are going to raise the flop.

His flat of your 3 bet is super strong on that flop. I don't think putting in a 4x 3 bet there was necessarily correct. Maybe 105? Worst isn't flatting, so once he flats, there should have been no more betting from hero. What range were you representing/expecting villain to believe with an overbet river bluff on such a dry board?

V is first to act, donks out for pot. Red flag #1. He calls your raise on the flop. Red flag #2. He checked the turn so he could hopefully check raise you. After all, if he leads the turn, you're folding. When you checked behind, you showed weakness. So, short of flopping a set, what else are you trying to rep on the flop that improves on the river? Aces are out of the question due to pre-flop action, so you have EXACTLY 6 possible hand combinations that beat him on the river. AT turning two pair and you checking behind is also out of the question, so tens full of aces is also out of the question.

It doesn't help things that he flopped the nuts. However, I'm trying to think of a hand he can donk the flop for pot and call a 3x raise on the flop that can fold that river unless he flopped 2 pair and got counterfeited by the board pairing.

Would this be an angle?