True about V1 still being in the hand on the flop and being stationy postflop. I fold the turn even more now.

Yeah, I really wanted to fold turn to be honest, considering the hand afterwards I thought it was a pretty thin turn call.

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damn dude. who was villain?

I can count on one hand how many times i've faced a double c/r in my life and it's always been nuts or close to it

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Sorry about the result. Seems like after this hand you could have used a nice long break--would have saved you some money. It can be tough, but it's always a good idea to take a short break (sometimes a long one) after a painful hand. It can have a huge effect on win rate.

I know OP doesn't want to talk about pre but too many people are saying "pf call is fine this deep." This deep, with tough V2 involved, makes the pf call worse, not better, than if it were under 200bbs deep. Even considering that bad V1 has 8k, how often will you comfortably get all in vs him? To the people that think these are good stacks for 107dd, how deep must stacks be before you're not comfortable getting all-in with the 10-high flush?

It's not all about making a flush (though as this hand shows, it can get a little hairy if you can't fold them).

Number one, you'll have position on everyone here. There's also the two straights you can make. You have the occasional backdoor flush and backdoor straights, which are nearly always hidden.

And again, position--i.e. you are able to rep scare cards and put horrific pressure on your out of position opponents with deep stacks.

For one thing OP only says he was LP, not on the button specifically, so he'll often not even have great position when he makes this call and gets overcalls behind him. Beyond that, when people say "call is fine this deep" I don't think they're referring to the potential to run a 400bb multi-street bluff against either of the two villains here. They're thinking of implied odds, which is a huge mistake with this kind of hand.

And even considering the possible backdoor draws, what sort of action could you think of where you comfortably get all in on the river for value? Pot is 12 BBs going to the flop, say it's 36bbs after the flop, 100bbs on the turn. You hit your backdoor flush, bet 75bbs, villain checkraises 100bbs more, now you're happy jamming the extra 200ish bbs over that vs either villain?

for a call to be correct here you don't have to win 8000 everytime. you only have to average more than a 100. I think you're overemphasizing the all-in situations.

The other player is a super fish station. You want to play as many pots as possible with this guy before he goes busto. especially in position. If you're good enough you should be able to pot control against the good player and value the station player.

Well I have to admit that I read the hand wrong. I really thought your range on the turn had far too many hands that would check the turn for villain to risk getting only 1 more street of value from with a better hand.

I have to assume that villain had some stellar read on you. Did you tank at all pre-flop? If so I could see him discounting sets since with 66 or 33 you would smooth call and he blocks AQd and AJd. With such a read, I could see him putting you on AKd, KdQx, or flush making a CR on turn more correct. It may be he picked up another read on the flop since any hand with a Kd is an easier call while a flush may tank a flop call considering a 3B or take time to consider future streets. Finally if your flop call was accompanied with observing villain carefully, he could again discount Kd hands since you would be less concerned about villains hand if you hit.

Kudos for villain. He played it well. If I had your image I could see playing it the same. I don't think you made a huge mistake at any point and you will be ahead in similar spots enough for it to be correct. Even so I do see two valuable lessons to take from the hand.

Smooth calls vs tank calls in early streets from tight players are tells that can be very reliable. The reason for this is that so many players think that tanking easy decisions are poor etiquette slowing play.

To make myself less susceptible, I usually don't play tight with a deep stack. I will often take a couple seconds for easy calls, look at villain when calling with draws, or look at pot or stacks when calling with a made hand. Most players only consider false tells with monsters while false tells on more common decisions can be far more misleading vs players who read well.

Another good lesson with this hand is, while many players will consider other's tells in reading a players range or line, most will overlook how their own tells could effect a villains play adding to their own misreads.

Self reads are always the most difficult read at the table. Invest more time considering your own tells when reviewing the hand. It's not as important at lower stakes but at $10/$25 it's important.