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11-18-2013 , 09:33 AM

gaijinuronin

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 78

10/20 usd
Villian playing for 30 minutes ..he seems kind of tight ..50 years old asian

I (250bb) limp AcQh UTG ( i normally raise but sometimes i do some limp reraise squeeze or limp call if one raiser)

Villian (200BB) is UTG+1 and he raise to 70

Everybody folds..i call

Flop(170) is
5c 6c 8h

I check...he bets 100 into 170

I check raise 350 planning that if he calls to bet turn on any club,4,9,a,k,q

Of course this kind of bluff/semibluff is better done in position but are there any merits for doing this OOP?

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11-18-2013 , 01:24 PM

Konti

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 255

Of course there are merits for such a play. FWIW, I'd like to have a more accurate image of my villain before I perform stunts like these.

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11-19-2013 , 02:57 AM

BagOfSuck

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 273

Raise pre c/f flop as played.

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11-20-2013 , 12:47 AM

Letmewin1

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Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 376

So villain seems kinda tight, ok.
Then what exactly do you think he would fold to you OTF?
B4 you decided to c/r flop did you actually give villain a range?
He raised $70 UTG1 with 1 limper (you) and then he bets $100 into $170.
Seems like you have a plan for certain turn run outs but what do you do if he jams OTF over your $350?

With no reads check fold flop is best.
IMO

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11-20-2013 , 11:56 AM

catch thirtythree

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 821

Im not doing this against an unknown especially an asian unless i've seen them fold an overpair vs c/r bomb bomb but if he's a tight asian he definitely has no part of the board. you can even bluff board pairing cards against the right tight dudes fwiw

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11-21-2013 , 02:27 AM

busticator

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Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 681

How many players at the table? Opening to 3.5X after one limper in a deep stack live game prob means villain doesn't know what's going on. So I prob wouldn't check raise flop. Def prefer opening $70-80 pre rather than limp calling. As played to flop, prob check fold, possibly check call.

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11-29-2013 , 12:36 AM

Jammer22

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Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 15

I like it

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11-29-2013 , 01:46 AM

dmkai3

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Originally Posted by BagOfSuck

Raise pre c/f flop as played.

+1

The plan to LRR pre with AQ is a bad one. You fold out all worse and it rarely gets better to fold so you waste the great postflop value that a hand like AQ has.

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11-29-2013 , 03:54 PM

TimeBomb

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,676

Donk flop, if its really your time to go nuts try to cr turn/river.

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11-29-2013 , 11:30 PM

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Letmewin1

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Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 376

Makes no sense whatsoever to donk flop!
Would you really donk knowing that villain will cbet that flop all the time if you have a 2pair+( which is unlikely).
Hero flopped very little equity, no back door outs, maybe 6 clean.
As played just fold, no reason to get creative in this spot, much better spots vs this villain will come up.

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