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10/10/20 2ndP TK river with busted draws 10/10/20 2ndP TK river with busted draws

09-11-2021 , 11:05 AM
I think a BTN straddle is probably -EV. You are voluntarily contributing money blind. Without a BTN straddle you still have the choice as to whether to raise blind or not. BTN straddle is a restriction of your strategy, hence it must be -EV.

Now maybe BTN straddle changes game environment in some unquantifiable way (making the game more fun), and is therefore +EV for meta reasons. But from a strictly logical viewpoint it seems that it has to be -EV. Any limitation that restricts your ability to take actions will be -EV, no?

Notice that we are discussing whether a single BTN straddle is EV. This is separate question from whether agreeing to a round of straddles is +EV or not (that is raising the stakes of the game).

Last edited by ChaosInEquilibrium; 09-11-2021 at 11:11 AM.
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09-13-2021 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
We might be UTG, but with the button straddle, presumably SB is acting first. So SB and BB have already folded, so we are opening into 5 remaining players.
It really is going to depend on the details of the straddling rule. In some places I play, SB is first. In others, UTG is first, and the straddle acts in position order if there is a raise ahead of them.
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