Table full with regs, Villain sits about $400 hero is $250 deep. Villain older guy plays all the time called K2s to a preflop raise of $15 3 hands before.

Hero in utg + 1 with 99 raise to $15
Villian in MP calls
SB calls

Flop AQ8 Pot $48

SB Checks
Hero Bets $25
Villain Calls
SB Folds

Turns T $98

Hero Checks
Villain Bets $65

Hero ?

Should i be re-raising here some of the time ? to get weak Ax hands draws and floats to fold. As i can't just call here is this a good candidate to turn into a bluff ?

Turning hand into bluff implies that the hand has SD value and there is at least some incentives to get to SD. In this instance, 99 does not have any SD value and therefore this is simply a straight-up bluff.

There isn't enough information to justify taking a stab in this spot, especially out of position for a small pot.

There could be argument to take a stand for meta game purposes, but that would probably take this discuss way off tangent.

The only re-raise option is a jam all in given stack size, but how often are you playing your value hands like this? I’m guessing you do that a smaller percent of the time with your KJ’s, two pairs, and sets. You would do it a large percent of the time with your flushes, but you probably don’t have many of those in your range here. V may also think you have a combo draw with the K of diamonds more so than he thinks you’re already there.

You mention he plays all the time, but do you know more about his tendencies? Do you play all the time with him? What does he think about you as a player? Seems like older guys that bet 2/3 pot on turns of pots this size (~$100) and given stack sizes are ready to get it in.

I’m guessing by your post that you’re a product of modern poker, and may be getting tripped up with some of the modern teaching. You’re playing low-stakes live hold’em with older gentlemen. Far more value in working to understand what all you can gather about this player’s tendencies than trying to balance in some jam bluffs.

Build up your intros, and the outros will take care of themselves.

You may even get to the point in which you know for sure that V has a flush here or a hand he’ll fold.

Definitely not a good idea to "bluff raise" when V calls flop (indicating a draw) and bets as if he likes that the flush got there. Don't cbet flop, it's terrible for your hand even if good for your range and there's a flush and straight draw you don't block that will likely continue, leaving you in no man's land on most turns (like this one). X/f flop, fold as played.

I just limp in but that's me.

I doubt I cbet this flop 3ways. This also partly goes back to preflop for me; I'm not sure what they point of building a bloated pot OOP is especially when we're just doing to hurp durp more serious money into it postflop on terrible boards.

I check/fold the turn. Everything has gotten there and dude has put in almost half his stack.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Wont limping in with 99 and turning it into a set mining hand sacrifice some of the value it has?

I know 99 isnt really a top hand but i feel it still has the strength to be able to perform fairly well on most flops.

i just feel limping is playing it too passively. occasionally limping is fine but i dont think it should be a default limp.

would like to hear your opinion on it

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We flopped the monster known as 3rd pair 3way and OOP and have already decided to put in 166% of our preflop total on the flop and are now thinking of putting in our whole stack on the turn when every draw got there. If that's our typical postflop plan, then my guess is that we'd be far better off keeping the pot smaller preflop (which will help limit the magnitude of our mistakes).

Gbut,that'smeG

If you are routinely putting yourself in a spot similar to this HH with 99, then playing more passively might be more +EV, at least until you have improved some aspects of your post-flop decision making ability.

Poker has so many variables that a particular line may very well be printing money for some players and burning money for others. It's important to understand or at least attempt to understand how scenarios may differ.

This is a super dangerous board and you should mostly give up on flop. Turn just makes it worse and check/fold should be the standard here. Raising turn is possible against certain villains who will habitually float flop and bet air when checked too but it's a very specific move that only applies when you have a strong read.

In general yes. In most games you will want to fold or raise with 99 when opening from EP. Gobbledygeek plays in a particularly fishy game where limping this sort of thing works much better then in a typical game. People in his games are more likely to let the hand limp around and still stack off post flop.

You raise or fold 99 in EP?

I definitely wouldn't say this is true at all; most hands are raised and rarely are people going to stack off postflop when I flop a set. It's just that for me 99 (barely) makes the cut for being a playable hand EP, and so I play it (by limping in and evaluating what happens). I mean, I *think* it's likely profitable here, but it's also probably pretty borderline too.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Depends on the game. Mostly stack sizes, how loose opponents are and how aggressive the game is. The deeper stacks are the more I will play it and with short stacks I often fold it all the time. At very loose games I'm likely to face 4+ opponents and 99 is rarely worth anything on the flop unless I hit a set. At tight games any raise is likely to get me heads up and I'm much more likely to play.

If the table is aggressive and I'm likely to get reraised I'm much less interested in playing it. At passive tables where a reraise preflop is a good sign of a strong hand I'm more interested in playing it. Both because it gets raised less and when it does get raised calling to set mine works better.

There are times where I run across a table passive enough and bad enough that open limping is fine. It takes a table pretty far off average before that is a good option though.

Not sure how you got 40 bucks into this with pocket 9s. But laying any more $$ here is nonsensical - you are still 200+ deep. Be complimentary and play the next hand.