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1/3 - Vs River XR with 2Pair 1/3 - Vs River XR with 2Pair

09-30-2023 , 08:05 AM
1/3 9max

eff stack ~500

1 limp, co (hero) isor 18 w/ KJdd, sb & bb call 18, both are fish, limper folds

pot ~60

flop QJ6 csh

checks around, i could have also cbet small, w/o bdfd i lean more towards a xb

turn Kh

sb x, bb bet 40, hero call 40, sb fold

pot ~140

river blank

sb x, hero bet 80, sb takes a look under his cards and xr to 300, hero ?

nasty spot, i think that my hand is a pure bluff-catcher at this point, i am beat vs AT(up to 16 combos), T9(4-16), 66(3) and KQ(6). i think that these hands have a high incentive to xr river, because from villains perspective ip (hero) has probably a Kx holding, e.g. AK and is likely to bet river for value vs some Qx, Jx one pair hand. potential bluff candidates include a T, e.g. KT (8), QT (12) or T8s (4).
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09-30-2023 , 10:04 AM
I'd bet the flop. On the river I'd size up a little - his calling range is really Kx+ after he leads the turn, so bigger is better. On the river I don't think anyone at live 1/3 is ever bluffing here and frankly the only bluff candidates would be bare hearts like 7h8h. If he has a hand like QT for example I don't think he'd bet the turn and make this elaborate x/r - more likely would be a polarized range of non paired draws or nuts. I don't think he ever has KQ or 66 here. It's live 1/3 - most are playing ABC 2005 poker.
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09-30-2023 , 12:15 PM
Snap fold
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09-30-2023 , 05:13 PM
This is a tough one. On the one hand, villain's line looks so FOS. If villain has the nuts and puts you on a K, wouldn't he want to bet? On the other hand, river check raises for large size are rarely bluffs, especially at these stakes.

Have you seen v bluff with a similar line before? If so, I think we can call.

If you have any AK here without Ah that might be better because we really don't beat any value with KJ, and we unblock some possible bluffs like JT. We may also sometimes have AT, T9, or a trapped QQ here. Not even sure if AK is worth the value bet here, so this might be our worst value hand here. We could have some bluffs too like TT, so we're not at the bottom of our range here, but not at the top either. Seems a little better than KJo without Jh though.

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Originally Posted by pokerfan655
I'd bet the flop. On the river I'd size up a little - his calling range is really Kx+ after he leads the turn, so bigger is better. On the river I don't think anyone at live 1/3 is ever bluffing here and frankly the only bluff candidates would be bare hearts like 7h8h. If he has a hand like QT for example I don't think he'd bet the turn and make this elaborate x/r - more likely would be a polarized range of non paired draws or nuts. I don't think he ever has KQ or 66 here. It's live 1/3 - most are playing ABC 2005 poker.
I don't think we need to bet second pair multiway on the flop.
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10-01-2023 , 06:38 AM
Easy snap fold on river, even though you mixed up SB and BB actions on turn. You could try to pull off the fun play of asking how much the bet is, sneaking your hand in the muck when dealer goes to count and then when the dealer says a number, count out the chips like you are thinking about calling and say “Wait I don’t have any cards!” and put the calling chips back in your stack. Top level llsnl bit when the mutants raise the nuts big on the turn or river and are drooling at the thought of you calling.
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10-03-2023 , 01:46 PM
I'm fine with preflop (although I would have zero issues overlimping either, which would I would lean to as we get more limpers).

I'm fine with checking back the flop.

I'm also just calling the turn.

I'm fine with our river bet (maybe a smidge smaller due to his weak looking check, but whatever) and now I fold to his check/raise (which is typically nuttish on the river in games I play in plus most people don't overvalue something like lol QJ here to this extent).

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