1/3: two 3bet multiway pots with TT
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Two 3-bet multiway pots with TT
Hand 1 - Thursday night, 1/3, 9-handed
Villain-1 (20yo Asian male, 40/30 LAG, $300) opens to $10 UTG
Hero ($300) 3-bets to $35 in MP with TT
Villain-2 (55yo Italian male, 35/10, $500) cold-calls from HJ
Villain-1 calls
Flop ($109): 952r
Villain-1 checks, Hero bets $90, Villain-2 calls
Turn ($289): 7, no flush draw possible
Villain-1 checks, Hero checks, Villain-2 checks
River ($289): J
Villain-1 checks, Hero checks, Villain-2 bets $120
What do you do? What should you have done differently earlier?
Hand 2 - Friday night, 1/3, 9-handed, very loose table
Villain-A ($300) blind-raises UTG to $7 (not live straddle)
5 callers
Hero ($300) 3-bets to $40 on the button with T-T (no club)
3 callers, all have stacks of $140 to $200
Flop ($160): 532cc
Checked to Hero
What do you do? Should you have sized differently earlier?
Join Date: Feb 2018
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Hand 2, I size bigger pre. Making it 50-60 here with 5 people already showing interest. Otf not sure what else there is to do other than jam, theres less than an effective post size bet behind.
Join Date: Nov 2018
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In the first hand you should prob be betting for value on the river. I check/call turn there. You block Q10 and have the second nuts, and as played, your opponents might think you decided to shut down some over cards on the turn and bluff river or might think your value betting an over pair and call you off with 2 pair or trips. Live table low stakes have a tough time folding in these spots. If you value bet and get raised just call, he could have We 10, a bluff, a chop, or even a lower straight. As far as the second hand goes I'm check folding unless I set up on the turn, in which case I'd evaluate the action and then decide. Your only real mistake here is that the board came down all clubs lol. And when you jam and get called your gonna be in terrible shape. Assuming a call range made up of over cards+flushdraw, flopped flushes, sets, flopped straights, pair +flush draw, and over pairs with or without the flush draw your looking at about 34% equity, and you and I both know these 1/3 players get sticky. I Iike your three bet size, i maybe woulda went $30-35 but whatever. You clearly still got loads of action. If the board has 1 less club it's an easy jam but with this being the case your opponents just have too much equity with their calling ranges.
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Wait, in hand 2 is it monotone or 2 c board?
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1)
Bet flop less amount, keep their ranges wider, by beting 80-90% of pot you make their ranges too strong
Ch-call river, this is the calling station,so river range is so wide
2)
Raise preflop bigger, jam flop
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H1:
In EP/MP facing a small raise with TT with 100bb stacks I think I'm cool with just flatting and seeing what happens (perhaps even flatting to reraise if a light 3better comes after a bunch of the dead money to this very small opening raise). With smaller stacks / more dead money in the pot / more in position, I'm cooler with 3betting. But I'm passive like that.
I'm bad at online stats things; V2 taking a 3bet to the face is concerning, right? It sets up a weird spot in that the SPR is now a lol 3 and so there is some argument for committing, and yet at the same time if anyone is willing to commit against us in a 3bet pot on this board we're losing. So with that in mind, I'd aim not to commit in spite of the low SPR, and think our flop bet is *way* too large. I probably wouldn't go any larger than $30 here (worse is calling more?).
Think I'm pretty much done with the hand when this massive bet gets called in two spots, and I check/fold the rest of the way.
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H2:
With $45 of dead money in the pot and lots of $140 - $200 stacks, I just ship it preflop. I think our $40 is *way* too small at a loose table and TT is going to see way too many gross spots to want to play too many postflop streets.
As played, super easy ship with just a ~PSB left.
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