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Originally Posted by mark "twang"
Agree with Mike. The turn card changes nothing from V's perspective, other than the fact that this board is terrible for an EP TAG opener's range.
Given the fact that a loose-passive MAWG is a) likely to give you a free card with all of his medium pairs and combo draws, b) pay you off when the spade gets there and c) call your turn bet with everything he called the flop with. It seems like checking the turn is best.
I would check/fold the river being that I am OOP and at a serious information disadvantage. MAWG can easily be slow-playing a boat. He could easily call with all his overpairs and sixes. Hell, he could even turn his hand into a bluff if you make a make a smallish, non-stack-committing bet.
Raising this PF is questionable. Was the table super nitty? Is balancing your range necessary at this specific 1-3 table? If not, then this a questionable open from EP.
I disagree with this in so many ways. This board is GREAT for my range. A flatter has a few boat combos, arguably no straights (75s isn't calling an EP open unless they're loose; this guy is a LITTLE loose; and it's 2017 even fish are aware of position to some extent), a few pair + draw type hands, weak overpairs and medium strength overpairs like TT and JJ. Not to mention a ton of air. In addition to boats I have all the strong overpairs they likely don't have (QQ+).
There's no way any fish checks back a hand like 77 given this action. Fish love to bet to protect. They LOVE to. I do agree that he's not folding too much on the turn but I have a ton of outs. A 9 or 8 is live a lot of the time. Also if I check and he bets I basically have to fold. And he will probably bet most of the time I check.
Can villain be easily slowplaying a boat? Of course. But out of the 200 something combos he got to the flop with, nine of them flopped a set. With the board pairing the turn there's only seven of those combos left. Yes I expect him to call most if not all overpairs but there is still SOME fold equity against the weakest ones and very good fold equity against even busted ace high flush draws.
You said he's loose passive. By that assumption, he won't be turning a pair (boat on river) into a bluff. And I've seen almost no one shove ace high over a triple barrel at 1/3. A small bluff needs to work less than 1/3 of the time. After sleeping on this I am 100% OK with a triple barrel here.
Why do I open 98s from EP? First of all it's 1/3. There's very little light 3 betting going on. And this is a hand I can call 3 bets with sometimes cause it's usually deep and sometimes they size it ******edly giving me 3 to 1 on a call. It's not for balance. It's because I firmly believe it's +EV. Given my skill advantage over the average 1/3 player, I think it's critical that I get into as many pots as possible. Especially with hands like 98s which have much better potential of stacking someone as opposed to a hand like AQo.