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08-01-2017 , 08:57 PM
1/3 MGM National Harbor

Hero - CO MAWG $266 stack. Villain's probably noticed I usually raise if joining the hand and willing to cbet when checked to in position. Not playing lots of hands, especially OOP. Not much more than that in the hour villain has been present.

Villain - BTN MABG built up to 1200 since he sat with about $300 about an hour ago. Pretty tight but obviously several big hands to get that stack in an hour. I was away from table when he played the big hand that got him up to $1200 but he just got it in with strong hands the others.

Pre:
Hero AQ CO

MP makes it 12. Hero re-raises to 36. Villain calls on BTN as does original raiser.

Flop Pot $108 AQ3 Check, Hero bets 50 with 180 more behind. Villain raises all-in. Others fold.

Hero?

What's your range for villain?

Last edited by p566; 08-01-2017 at 09:19 PM.
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08-01-2017 , 09:18 PM
Can't fold. V could have a big A, AQ, heart draw, A3, set. Just never folding here. AA and QQ are so discounted. 33 is about all we are behind, and we have outs. I think he has AK w/ Kh or KhJh type hand.

(Please put pot on streets when you post.)
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08-01-2017 , 09:43 PM
Obvious call, hand is simply too strong to ever fold here on that flop.

V range: AA, QQ, 33 beat us. 33 maybe folds pre, but some players will set mine with any pair. AA and QQ we block, 2 combos.

We beat AK and chop with AQ. AK would be a bad shove imo, but it's possible. If he's particularly bad he could flip over AJ here. Maybe combo draws like KJ/K10h.

How tight can you think he is if he's up 900 in 1h?
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08-01-2017 , 09:46 PM
Fist-pump snap call.

So much MUBs going on in recent threads.

As for his range, I'd say AK mostly, AQ/AJ, rarely a slowplayed AA/QQ, probably not A3/33 if he's not a huge fish. KhJh/KhTh depending on how tight he actually is pre-flop.
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08-01-2017 , 10:03 PM
Of course call as others note.

Range, I dunno. Obviously QQ but there's only one combo. Same for AA if he can flat there. AK of course. Beyond that, sorta depends on interpretation of "tight" vs a 3bet.

The thing is you're kinda short stacked here and it doesn't make sense for him to be calling a 3 bet with stuff like KJhh or 33 unless MP has a much bigger stack but I don't think you said? And depending on how mathematical he is he might just be thinking "I have a big suited hand on the button so I call".

Btw, saw a guy with a Durham Bulls hat at MGM last weekend, maybe it was you. Not that rare of a hat, but not that common either.
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08-01-2017 , 10:18 PM
Snap call. V can easily have AK here given stack size. Against a range of just AA, QQ, 33, AK and AQ you have 55% equity. You're doing better if he can have A3s.
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08-01-2017 , 10:22 PM
OP, why is this hand important? How is forum going to give you feedback that helps you improve?
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08-02-2017 , 12:26 AM
I prefer flat pre.

Bet flop bigger.

As played obvious call
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08-02-2017 , 04:40 AM
Let me give you some more stacks, pardner... (LOL)

Obviously, You got to call his shove. T2P is almost as good as a set. You got redraws to some outs. So, Yes ! wtf? You got to call this.

I don't think he's got a set of 33. With a set he will call OTF and lead OTT or c/r turn, or some combination of things. He may put you on a draw.

You got to call, bro .., no matter what you call. This hand play by itself. It is automatic. Call!

What? .. are we starting to fold T2P now?

Last edited by outdonked; 08-02-2017 at 04:47 AM.
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08-02-2017 , 04:40 AM
Never folding for this $$ amount. Bet bigger on flop - at least 75.
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08-02-2017 , 06:52 AM
Thanks all.

In the moment I did have the logic most express here. Basically his hands were:
AA (1 way and even that is discounted as it would usually be 4bet pre)
QQ (1 way )
33 (3 ways and discounted because he didn't really have odds to set mine)
AK (8 ways)
AQ (4 ways)

So I called.

Then he showed QQ and over the next few hours I watched him play almost no hands and never get caught in big pots with anything short of near nuts. Combine that with knowing one of my leaks (my biggest one) is calling big bets convincing myself that their range must be wider than if appears and self-doubt crept in. So I wanted a line check.

I didn't include any of the above originally to avoid signalling he showed up with QQ and biasing results.
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08-02-2017 , 07:48 AM
Snap call.
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08-02-2017 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by downunder66
Never folding for this $$ amount. Bet bigger on flop - at least 75.
Why $75? Is it to protect against FD? To extract more value? To limit the hammer that villain can use when raising?
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08-02-2017 , 09:04 AM
You didn't answer my earlier question (and you don't have to if you don't want to) about the stack size of MP, nor did you give any info on MP. Villain's range here could be very narrow if MP is tight and short stacked but could be very wide if MP is loose and a big stack.
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08-02-2017 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by spider
You didn't answer my earlier question (and you don't have to if you don't want to) about the stack size of MP, nor did you give any info on MP. Villain's range here could be very narrow if MP is tight and short stacked but could be very wide if MP is loose and a big stack.
Sorry - I don't recall MPs stack (or which player MP was to be honest). I just recalled that I raised a $12 pot. But I do take your point that villain could have seen implied odds from MP (but he had to assume MP would call which I guess is likely for $24 with $84 already in the pot.)
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08-02-2017 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by p566
Sorry - I don't recall MPs stack (or which player MP was to be honest). I just recalled that I raised a $12 pot. But I do take your point that villain could have seen implied odds from MP (but he had to assume MP would call which I guess is likely for $24 with $84 already in the pot.)
You did fine , you're cool, pardner ..

Don't you worry about him having QQ when you got T2P .., so he won. Not a big deal. If the hands would have been in reverse with him on T2P and you on QQ the situation would also play by itself. wtf? a set is a "dark hand", as we call it, hidden another words, and your T2P is just a notch bellow sets. You cannot fold that hand. Nobody can fold it unless there's 4 card to str8-flush or some very wet and coordinated board that flies and screams in the face of traditional board interpretation.
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08-02-2017 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by p566

What's your range for villain?
AA, QQ, AQ, AK is worst case, gives you 63% equity. Gotta call here I think.
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08-02-2017 , 02:22 PM
Cooler. Cant fold IMO. Top off and start again. GL
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