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04-10-2015 , 12:07 PM
Been playing this Aria table for 4 hours. Table seemed a bit loose with several $2/5 players who had dropped down. Big pots. Fun table. It was my last hand of the night.

V1-CO ($275): Competent player. I had been playing with this guy all day and I didn't seen any real obvious errors. He seemed solid. Was limping in with SCs and small PPs all day (along with all the other OMCs). Raising PFR with face cards and basically playing ABC.

V2-HJ ($175): New to the table. No good reads yet. He really didn't matter in the hand.

Heroine-BB ($400): Tag-nit stuck for $200. Frumpy old lady who plays like a frumpy old lady. I had lost a big hand earlier in the session and was starting to grind my way back up.


Folded around to CO who makes it $12 PFR. HJ calls and I call in BB with 78. Flop=($36)
At this point I start to range the CO. AA to J10. Big face cards.

Flop ($36): 758
I check with top two. CO bets $18, HJ calls $18. I raise to $45. Cut off thinks for about a minute and shoves for $164. HJ folds.
At this point I'm convinced that its over pairs (JJ+). I doubt he'd shove for AQ+ and he surely wouldn't have PFR'd with 69 or 55. Blah......I hate these spots!

Heroine?
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04-10-2015 , 12:21 PM
This is an extraordinarily obvious call if you think CO has JJ+ and sets. You beat most of those and block the rest.

Against an ABC player, I would 3bet preflop with a limper in the hand.
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04-10-2015 , 12:23 PM
Fold pre. SC's play crappy OOP against decent villains.

We block two of the sets so unless he's opening 96, I get it in.

There's only one combo of sets of 8's and 7's. 3 combos of 5's. = 5 combos
16 combos of 96

So, we're losing to 21 combos. Compare this to 24 combos of AA-JJ alone. This is a clear call. This is a worst-case scenario as we're assuming in this scenario he's 100% opening 96 for a raise pre.
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04-10-2015 , 12:27 PM
For sure getting it in and feeling great about it.
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04-10-2015 , 12:31 PM
There's nothing in your OP to suggest that Villian has the straight or a set here. Your information shows Villian raises with high pairs, etc. and limps small pairs and SC's.

I don't expect villain to show up with the straight here, seems like an easy call to me. Expect Villian to have JJ+ in this spot and to just have to fade a few outs.
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04-10-2015 , 12:57 PM
Fold pre. As played, gii. If he has a set or straight, it's a major cooler (except that you called pre).
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04-10-2015 , 01:33 PM
Fold pre, but I make this mistake sometimes by losing discipline. Second, HJ is right of CO so your v positions are backwards.
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04-10-2015 , 01:45 PM
Action is a little confusing, I'm going to assume V2 is Button (not HJ) due to him reacting after V1 (CO).

I would fold preflop. The only good news is that the raise is for a smallish percentage of V1's effective stack (~4%), but everything else is bad news. We'll be OOP. V1 is solid. V2 is fairly shortish (putting in ~7% of his stack, meh). We're only going 3ways (cutting down immediate odds plus chances of stacking someone since there's only 2 opponents to stack). FWIW, if it's been folded to CO and he's solid, my guess is his range can be very wide here, which is bad news for us if we're trying to play hit-our-hand poker because it's so unlikely he'll hit a hand worth stacking off with.

I might just donk the flop. If CO's range is wide (which I think it is) he might not cbet 3 ways, especially on this board which doesn't have any scare cards to rep. I probably bet largish (like 3/4 PSB+) so that I can play for stacks by the river, and just hope one of our villains has something they think they can continue with. As played, I might check/raise a little more simply because there are a lot of cards that could come on the turn to slow things down.

Honestly, if our read is that CO is solid then his shove is scary, because frumpy woman us just check/raised two opponents (nuttish hand alert!) and yet he doesn't seem to care. Anyhoo, I don't think we can fold top two pair in this SPR < 10 pot, so I sigh call and just hope my read of him being solid is off.

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