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Originally Posted by Yogurt Daddy
Preflop is too loose. We would rarely RFI KJo in LJ, and only sometimes in HJ. KJs is appropriate. And that's to RFI. We are now ISO raising. KJo is no go here.
Flop bet is too big multiway. Something like 5-7bb is better.
Turn bet is decent. We want to stay at 1/2 pot or smaller in these big multiway pots.
River I'm just checking behind. Keep in mind that dark checks while they want to make us attack.......actually strengthen V's checking range substantially because they are now checking 100% of their value hands.
We have made two large bets (for multiway) that started with 3 others on flop, 2 others on turn. So, with the large bets, we have funneled our opponents into the top end of their collective range.
Combine that with dark check strengthening the checking range.....I'm just checking behind
I'd definitely bet JJ here. More than likely 99. And obviously flushes and straights. We have plenty of value hands we can go 3 streets with. 2p doesn't need to.
What charts are you looking at saying KJo is rarely RFI from LJ? Looking at GTO Wizard, it's mostly a raise in raked games. Less so in unraked games where suited connectors are preferred. I think it's a pretty easy open in LJ in softer games. I think if youbhave a significant edge, a lot of hands that mix raise and fold pre as a rfi should be raised at full frequency.
I like the iso, but it is thin. Some players are limp calling with AJ, AQ, KQ. I even see AK limp called occasionally at 1/2 and 1/3. So vs certain players you might limp behind or even fold.
At the end of the day, vs a typical limp calling range, if you hit top pair, you are likely good with KJ and might consider getting 2 streets of value. Plus, you're in position with what is likely a weak player you will be able to bully out of the pot a decent chunk of the time. You also can have a decent amount of draws and situations where your overcard outs may be good. Spots where you can rep flushes that come in if you have the right suits.
Of course you have to be cautious and sometimes wave the white flag or go into check/check call mode. I think it works out often enough for it to be worth it.
My evolution in thinking of KJo as a poker hand has been 1. Ooo, nice hand! 2. Oh, it's a terrible hand. 3. It's trashy, but if the table is soft, I at least have a razor thin edge with it.
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Originally Posted by Dont Tilt!
Thanks for feedback all. Also noted on posting in $ instead of bb.
In game I bet 50bb ($150 into pot of ~$360), villan Jammed and I tank folded ($200ish still in my stack). He showed T8dd.
Good to see that the consensus is to b/for small. Thought I was value owning myself after I got raised.
I like your play at these stakes. One thing I have noticed is that people who crush live poker when facing recreational players and bad regs often go for disrespectfully thin value. And they have bet/folding for value in their arsenal. You have to adjust against stronger and tricky players who will have traps and bluffs here. If that's the type of player you are facing, you should generally avoid betting small on the river in position and opening the action back up.
Last edited by Mlark; 06-06-2023 at 12:33 PM.