Table has been very loose and too many 3b with bad hands.

H is a TAG and V is a LAG.

Eff $350

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H opens K J on UTG+1 to $12, V calls on the BTN and unknown random guy who just sat onnthe table calls on BB.

F ($37): 3 J 8

BB checks, H bets $12, V calls and BB folds.

T ($61): 9

H checks, V bets $25, H calls

R ($111): K

H bets $40, V insta calls

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Thoughts?

It's a fold pre 9 handed. Flop go a bit larger. Wet board and should be ahead. Rest seems ok, surely you won this, perhaps beating a worse 2p.

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Agree it is a fold pf. Bet sizing is too small especially on the turn and river. If you didn't think you had a winning hand at any point, you should have checked, not bet small.

As soon as you took any action other than folding you played it wrong.

lets pretend you had KJs. in that case just 1/2-2/3 pot every street. you could also make an argument for check/calling every street vs. a LAG. at this level people will assume you missed if you check, or at best have something like TT.

On this runout, on that River, I think my preference is:

1) Check-raise
(big gap)
2) BIG overbet lead
(HUGE HUGE HUGE gap)
3) A lead for 40% pot.

You of course chose option 3, and the biggest problem with that is that you have literally zero bluffs in your range with a tiny River lead.

Number 1 is the best because it’s the only way you get more money when he’s bluffing, and when you lock down the board like this, he should be bluffing A LOT. You want him blasting off with all his missed clubs, his T9s and T8s, etc. (He also could go for light value with AJ or KT.)

The overbet lead is a good option because that *is* the size *you* would use with your AT/AQ bluffs—so you put him in the blender with his own T8-like bluff-catchers. (Like, imagine he gets to this River with QJ no club and you bet $125. He’s HATING life!)

So yeah. Everything else is fine.

PRE - opening KJo is a little wide, but not a huge mistake if we think we have a skill edge on the table.

Not sure about the sizing. Most 1/3 games I play in, the open sizing tends to be $15, not $12, but if it's $12 in your game, then it seems fine.

I might not raise KJo as often, if ever, when the game is loose/wild, with lots of 3B'ing. It's just not a hand that's going to play well OOP in a 3B pot. I might actually develop an EP limping range in a game like this, and KJo might fit into that range.

FLOP - Good board for KJ. When we're in MP in a multi-way pot, I usually start with a check. But this is a really wet board, so I'd bet bigger than 1/3 pot. I think that's a mistake. Your bet should be 2/3 pot to full pot. We don't mind taking the pot down right here.

TURN - Bad card, especially after c-betting small on the flop. Check-call.

RIVER - Good card! The club draw missed, and we're only losing to QT. Bet bigger, like $90, to get looked up light, or go REALLY small, like $25, to induce LAG V to spaz-raise with worse 2P and bluffs.

The way this was played, taking a bet-check-bet line should get us looked up light a lot. We're going to have some missed flush draws that feel compelled to bluff here. We might also be over-playing AK or AA. V could have J9 or 98 here a fair bit.

Alternatively, a small block bet after we check turn could look like AK or KQ just trying to get to a cheap showdown. I like using the same sizing V used for his turn bet, because it looks really weak. Again, V could raise with J9 or 98 for value, or get wild and spaz raise with QJ or JT.