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12-13-2013 , 08:26 AM
Hand 1 - V1 MP: In his 30's.. maybe businessman? Earbuds, saw him call a shove earlier on a QQX board with AA and won vs KK. He doesn't seem like the best player and gets married to pairs easily. Pretty weak TAG both pre/post

V2 BB: In his 40's, decent player, his brother is a big named pro. V stacked me earlier on a 10-j-5 board as I flopped a set and he hit his straight on the turn, he knows how to play.. but not a great player as well and never thinks I have it. Loose pre somewhat aggro..post

Hero SB: 21 y/o white, hoody, hat, friendly tonight and playing pretty ****in solid other than that one hand I got stacked on. Effective stacks are ~500

Hero dealt KQ in the SB. V1 raises to 15, folds to me I call, v2 calls.

Flop 10J3 Hero checks, V2 checks, V1 checks..

Turn 3 Hero bets 15, v2 calls, v1 calls....?

River 9 Hero bets 55, v2 folds, v1 raises to 155.


Hand 2 - V1 BB: Reg/dealer at the casino (found that out later) Nice guy, probably in his early 30's maybe late 20's, white, I don't have much info with him other than that I believe he's at least a decent player, whom which used to play for a living before he started dealing, knows all the regs, etc. Assuming typical TAGiness.

V2 UTG+1: Same V as V1 in hand 1.

Hero: As stated in hand 1. V had seen me playing yesterday I am new to this casino but I believe he respects my game, and effective stacks are ~300

Hero dealt 89 on the btn. V2 raises to 8 UTG+1 I call on the btn, V1 calls.

Flop - K67 V1 checks, V2 check, I check.

Turn - 5 V1 bets 15, V2 calls, Hero raises to 45. Both call.

River 7 V1 quickly bets 120, hero ???

Sorry for the ****ty HH I am exhausted after 3 11 hr sessions in a row. Bare with me.
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12-13-2013 , 10:49 AM
Hand 1: I'm not thrilled calling this hand out of position. I don't mind the check on the flop, but I might have led. Turn bet is too weak. Can't imagine him ever showing up with a full house here (99?), but I probably just call. With what worse hand will a TAG, even if he's weak (is weak TAG an oxymoron?), call a raise?

Hand 2: I'd bet this flop, especially after checked to. Raise more on turn. I'd probably make it $60. Again, probably too passive, but against a reg dealer who's seen you play, I just call. The way the hand played, I'm not folding, but I don't like raising paired boards against certain players. If he respects your game, does that mean he thinks you'll fold a hand like you have to his bet?

Last edited by Javanewt; 12-13-2013 at 10:56 AM.
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12-13-2013 , 11:10 AM
Dont have time for how I would normally post ...

Hand 1 ... Holding is iffy OOP but pot is small ... Turn bet needs to be bigger as you can take it down or get better info from callers. Not a bad idea to build a bigger pot but you can take some of these down right there with 'nothing' ...

... If you raise you wont get called by worse too often but why wouldn't a set raise you on Turn? That would be really fishy IMO so it is possible to 3-bet here with a little more confidence but I am just calling it down most of the time.

Hand 2 ... Good line .. Turn raise is good since you have the nuts and any card that draws out on you will be obv on River. Surprising to get 2 callers ... so now you have to beware.

Again though ... why isnt a set playing back at you here? If 67 then ... poker ... I would be more inclined to shove here with a smaller stack but the same rule applys. In most cases it is wise to just call it down on a paired board as you dont get worse to call very often.

Depending on the order of the hands ... Not knowing the results of hand 1 may effect my shoving hand 2 or not ... GL
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12-13-2013 , 01:44 PM
holding child, so hard to type.. but def lead out on those flops
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12-13-2013 , 03:51 PM
Hand 1 I may fold pre, are you sure you are a nit? Nits don't playKQ in sb. I may donk bet flop, and as played I am never folding. It's between a call of raise but I am just calling due to the strength of the check raise on the river.

2nd hand I am betting flop and raising turn and calling river.
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12-13-2013 , 04:15 PM
I am not a nit at all lol, I play KQ in the SB vs players I am comfortable playing post flop, even OOP in this situation. Would like some more feedback before I post results
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12-13-2013 , 05:01 PM
You didn't say what position at the table the initial raises and actions came from in hand 1. It matters a great deal.

Would generally bet both flops
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12-13-2013 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by attentionnoone
You didn't say what position at the table the initial raises and actions came from in hand 1. It matters a great deal.

Would generally bet both flops
Sure I did.. Clearly bolded out their position next to V. V1 = MP, V2 = BB.
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12-13-2013 , 05:32 PM
in the bath tub so hard to type, bare with me.


hand 1, I'd fold preflop. I don't like playing KQ out of the blinds against a preflop raiser. You could 3-bet if he opens from MP regularly.

As played, Turn bet is too weak. As a blocker, it worked to set your price, but I'd prefer to try to take down the pot here. Pot is $45, bet $35-$40.

As played, calling the river.



Hand 2. Looks pretty good, though I might take a stab at the flop. As played, call.
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12-13-2013 , 06:13 PM
You say you are comfortable playing KQo oop against these guys post flop, then you check flop, bet weak on turn, bet less than half pot when you hit, and then question what to do. What is your question in that hand?
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12-13-2013 , 07:20 PM
My question is do we call on both obviously? Yea I'm fine playing KQ oop against them. Don't think it was misplayed at all. Betting for value on the river obviously in hand 1. Didn't expect a raise...
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12-13-2013 , 07:44 PM
RE: hand 1.

Hmmm. I'll pretend I'm MP and I see the SB donk out and BB call. I'm thinking:
1. Premium hand is unlikely, he probably would have 3bet that.
2. There are a couple of combos of JJ and TT I need to worry about.
3. At 1/3, I would put a lot of Tx hands in hero's range.
4. There are a slew of 89 and KQ combo's out there.
5. Seems like a good place to squeeze.

I know people don't play all that aggressively at 1/3, and they very seldom bluff-raise, but dang. I dunno, I kind of liked the flop check.
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12-14-2013 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
Hand 1: I'm not thrilled calling this hand out of position. I don't mind the check on the flop, but I might have led. Turn bet is too weak. Can't imagine him ever showing up with a full house here (99?), but I probably just call. With what worse hand will a TAG, even if he's weak (is weak TAG an oxymoron?), call a raise?

Hand 2: I'd bet this flop, especially after checked to. Raise more on turn. I'd probably make it $60. Again, probably too passive, but against a reg dealer who's seen you play, I just call. The way the hand played, I'm not folding, but I don't like raising paired boards against certain players. If he respects your game, does that mean he thinks you'll fold a hand like you have to his bet?
Pretty much exactly what i was going to say.
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12-14-2013 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by thec0de
Sure I did.. Clearly bolded out their position next to V. V1 = MP, V2 = BB.
OK sorry. Generally this is a fold pre. Only calling if raise is from HJ or later and 3betting just as often as calling imo.
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12-14-2013 , 04:02 PM
Hand 1: FPS OTR
Hand 2: Must bet flop, shove turn.
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12-15-2013 , 07:15 AM
Ok so results since I guess all discussion is over :P? Hand 1: I call V turns over TT. Hand 2: I fold and show him 8-9, after the session is over he tells me he had K-7 of spades. I wholeheartedly believe him as he seemed very genuine and we are now friends..
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12-15-2013 , 08:55 AM
Just call for both. You are almost always chopping hand 1 and maybe even hand two. Also, why do people always post about hands where they are making nutty hands which they will never be folding? If you only loose with nutty hands you want lose very much compared to other leaks.
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12-15-2013 , 07:35 PM
Sorry, I'm just posting tough spots I've been in where I felt I was no good in both spots and curious the ranges you guys put V's on here. I really felt I wasn't good in either spot and almost folded hand 1.
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