OP should be 3b for value and to isolate, not to force him to fold his bad hands. I think $40-$60 would be a perfectly acceptable 3b amount given that no one else is involved with the hand yet. If you play in a game where you can 3b an UTG open to $90, get called by worse and then have them c/f most flops, then that's awesome for you. I'm a huge proponent of DGI's "find their pain threshold" idea, but the vast majority of games, you're only going to get action on a play like that when you are crushed or flipping at worst. What is your 3b range when you are raising that much?

This isn't even about playing exploitably, it's about every time you 3b that much, you are winning $18 or losing $90. You're risking a huge amount of money to win comparatively little. Again, if you've got a gold mine of a game where people call 3bs for 40-50bbs and then c/f, that's awesome, but the huge majority of games don't play like this. At least not at 100bb anyway.

Agreed, there isn't such thing as 4b light in these games. Seriously, what game do you play in where Vs folding AJ to a 40bb+ 3b is less frequent than them calling? Them folding those hands is not exploiting you, it's playing correctly.

The Rumor - True which is why I felt so bad about it. I take solace in the fact a lot of other posters would do the same. I did feel like such a dope at the table.

Eh, that still counts as soul owning in my book.

The hand was pretty easy from V's perspective. OP's hand was face-up as TT+ and V knew he was behind only AA and so it's just a matter of getting value from TT+. If OP had AA, then so be it (for 100bb, AA vs KK is a cooler, but QQ/JJ vs KK+ really isn't), but OP's range is going to be chock full of TT+ hands and he's valuetowning a bunch of that range.

He tried let you off the hook with the turn bet. I prefer a b/b/b line if I were in V's shoes, but the line he took can be effective if you get someone who's aggressive early and married to their hand later.

Sorry if any of this comes off as harsh. Just trying to be constructive. We've all been there.

Villain should have checked turn.

Checking the turn allows OP the chance to for sure commit himself with a bet of any size (I disagree with GG about being committed already, mostly just because the tiny bet OTF is a huge red flag) but also allows him the chance to check behind which is not ideal, but not catastrophic given the board texture. I think checking the turn is a better play for V if OP had flatted the flop.

I'm guessing V read OP as married to his hand (which should be correct given the raise OTF), and so I like going for the gold with the jam OTT. He doesn't have to get a call very often for it to be profitable and on the off chance that OP had 3b him with something like JT/AK/AQ, V allows OP to make a further mistake by calling.

Hfrog - i don't think you are being harsh at all. In fact I would probably reply in much the same way. The problem is that it is different when you are actually in the hand. That is why I started posting more so that I could detach from the "in the moment" thinking that always leads to a call in these situations and really think about it.

I have committed to posting one hand a session, and if I know I have to post it and reveal bad thought processes (or no thought process) causes me to stop & think and saves or gains me one big pot a day it will significantly affect my win rate.

In my eyes I punted $200 here. I did gain good insight into the villain, but I could have done much better and think the hand was well played up to the point at which I stacked off.

Oh, and I was checking behind on the turn if given the opportunity.

Don't snap raise the flop. Don't snap anything ever really.

The stack off isn't like terrible but I'd probably fold.

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Why are you checking the turn? I'd raise more otf btw.

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+1

If you're up against a reasonably tight/thinking/competent player, then I think this is a fold.

If you think villain is a semi-drooler/donk/drunk/dummy, then you can snap this off and feel good about it.

Better to just 3 bet flop if you think hero never folds qq or JJ.

Technically true, but V keeps his range wider by calling and there is little to worry about as most turn cards will be blanks. You're right, but I think playing it a little slower is confusing to lots of players and flatting "sets the hook deeper".

PF- 3bet is fine. if you're willing to get it in with this type of villian, id make it a little more, but based on your description he's no avg. fish.

Flop- his OOP donk bet and then re-raise call puts me on alert. When you re-raise here you pretty much turn your hand face-up. I doubt TT-JJ is calling your re-raise, which pretty much leaves sets, KK-AA and the unlikely TJ or 89. calling the flop makes our hand look like AK, or AQ. so I'm re-raising to 80 and if villian calls pretty much c/f most other streets or hope we get to a showdown.