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Originally Posted by Telemakus
I'm talking about on average, against the average player pool. Of course having a maniac who jams 100% of hands when limped to changes things; but in reality that is never going to be the case. Reality is absolutely clear-cut and there is zero doubt that raising with KK in EP is higher EV and wins much bigger pots than limp-raising does.
Limp-reraising in EP is one of the most transparent ranges in the game in my opinion, and I'm not in the business of giving my opponents free information like this. In my mind there is zero doubt that these hands should simply be in the RFI range with the rest of the EP range. That way the entire range remains stronger, you avoid the complication of splitting ranges preflop, and the strongest hands in your range are concealed by the fact that they RFI in the same manner as the weaker hands.
What normal live low stakes poker setups are you claiming that limping KK in EP is higher EV than raising, and how?
When there is a raise you get to re-raise. The table of limped vs raised pots only applies if there is a limped pot. Now compare the raised pot to the re-raised pot and note which is larger. Now I agree you need a strong likelihood the pot will get raised so you can re-raise but if that exists limping can be very effective. And if the table will always treat it as a QQ+, AQ+ hand even better as you then do not limit your re-raises to these hands. Note well I agree if the table is a limp fest this is not a good strategy.