Generally very passive fishy table with lots of limping. In BB with 4 limps including SB, so pot is $15 including my BB. What types of hands are we raising with, and how much?

Depends. Are they limp-cally, or limp-foldy? Are they sticky post-flop, or fit-or-fold? What is the mix? What are stack sizes?

Question is basically unanswerable, imo. Way too many factors.

Stacks vary $50-$500. Not too sticky, mostly fit/fold.

AJ+, KQ, TT+ would be a good rule of thumb. If you want to go a bit tighter or a bit looser I wouldn't fault you. I wouldn't be raising non value hands.

Would raise more with offsuit/disconnected cards in general as they don't want a multiway pot. But don't do it to the point of being exploitable ofc.

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..., now... c-mon ..man,

What are the effective stacks when the action is on you . Not what is the range of all the donkeys stacks.

You got some hand that you want to play and you have $47K stack all the others dudes have 50-500. OK,.., what is the effective stack(s) you play against?

for example;
you got 76s and one villain with $500 shoves all-in all others fold (effective is 500). You fold too even if you have useless position this time. You got T9s, fold. You need a big pocket pair or AK

Against a range that runs $50-$500 that is critical. If most of the villains are near the $50 end raise only for value with hands you are willing to play for stacks. If villains are near the $500 end then you can make some squeeze bluffs and raise with some drawing hands that can hit the flop.

If it actually is a wide mix all over the place, which isn't that uncommon at low stakes, then look at how the short stacks are playing. If they are playing tight/passive and not looking for situations to shove then you can play the deep stacks and raise. If the short stacks are looking for good chances to shove or may tilt on you then tighten up.

One of the annoying situations you will run into at low stakes is these mixed tables where the short stacks provide cover for deep stacks playing a tight passive game. You can't put as much pressure on the deep stacks preflop and on the flop as you would like because the short stacks are going to shove on you too often.

The more the big stacks are with ABC face up non-difficult players, the more we can just play ABC forward ourselves and raise good value hands, say TT+/AK (and maybe possibly a bit wider). The more the big stacks are with difficult players, the more we can move towards raising 0% of hands (position and opponent tendencies will matter a lot more than preflop hand values especially if villains can correctly range us) and just see a flop and see how we want to proceed from there.

GimoG

I still think we want to make bigger pots with bigger hands or bigger pots with hands that can make big hands. So you'd switch from raising pure value/wanting iso hands like two broadway offsuit to multiway hands like broadway suited, suited connectors, and pp's.

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Yeah, I've wondered about that idea too, as big pocket pairs / TP type hands play horrible in big pots that get to the river, so those should actually be the last hands we're raising. But I also fear that raising the more speculative ones just make it too expensive for us overall (since obviously we'll rarely hit), plus we'll be OOP (more difficult to play and get paid off), plus OOP against difficult opponents I still think in general the idea should be to keep all pots small preflop, plus with some hands (such as smaller pocket pairs or non-nutted broadway cards) bloating a pot preflop will lead us to some RIO situations.

I suck at deepstack, obviously, but the more I play it the more I feel we could simply have a 0% preflop raising range (especially OOP) and still do perfectly fine, and it *might* (????, that's the question, obviously) be better than other methods.

GcluelessNLnoobG

88+ AQ+ ATs+ KJs+ $26+

Yeah, I think raising in position with these speculatives is better. You make it easier to get stacks in, and might get a free flop.

But limp/calling is probably better up front than raising, especially with active 3 bettors. Short you'd find yourself having to limp/fold often and raising too often makes your post range too heavily weighted towards semibluffs/bluffs since you'll be pushing FE.

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Iv'e wondered this myself. Players at 1/3 that limp can get real sticky when there's a raise. I agree w/AJ+, KQ, TT+ as far as hands go. Even though i'm OOP, i sometimes feel inclined to go 2x-2.5x pot. There is a lot of info unavailable that might cause this to vary but my thought is to pull the trigger on that raise and if called; re-evaluate on flop given other players involved, stacks, perceived image etc. I'm in the same boat as OP so these are just my thoughts.

I see people doing these $10 raises utg and think they're more likely speculative. I remember a while back you could minraise 65s utg and not get a reraise. If you can pull off the small raise to set the price early, bloat the pot a little, and remain the aggressor then definitely a strong move. Just your initiative is probably not worth nearly as much as you think, esp. if you overuse it.

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^makes sense, i like it

I appreciate all the feedback folks.