8-handed 1/3NL weekday afternoon game.


Villain is 65ish white guy who is a TAG strictly speaking but sticks around in hands and opens a little too wide in EP- he opened KJo UTG a couple of orbits ago. He's capable of bluffing, but I've never seen him get super out of line.

Villain Has $275, Hero covers.

OTTH:

UTG Folds, MP Villain says "Call" as he tosses out 2 reds- it's ruled a call, LJ Hero raises to $15 with QsQc, folds back to villain who calls.
Note here: I am 95% sure that he intended to raise, and that this is an honest mistake not an angle.

Flop ($29):

9c4d2d

V Checks, H bets $20, V calls

Turn ($66)

9h

V Checks, H bets $40, V raises to $100. Hero?

How much do you guys have in your stacks?

$275 effective, edited OP.

Ok thank you it makes the hand a whole lot easier, just jam now, and if he really intended to raise pre it's just a cooler.

I overlimp the HJ but that's my style. But we managed to get this HU in position with an ~ok SPR of ~9, so decent result.

With an SPR of ~9 I'm not looking to stack off over 3 streets to most players. So while I'm ok with our flop cbet, we do have to keep this in mind regarding our bet sizing (and perhaps whether we even bet 3 streets).

I think I would mostly lean to checking back the turn. It's a good card for him to bluff a busted draw on the river versus weakness. Meanwhile, another bet starts getting stacks in play. If I'm betting, it's to bet/fold; and while him having a 9x seems a little unlikely, he can still have us crushed other ways and this typically isn't how a worse overpair plays (keeping in mind a tricky AA/KK can also always be in play here).

GcluelessNLnoobG

With him limping in, we offered him really good IO of 23:1 to call the extra $12 preflop. Stacking off against better giving these IO and SPR is not a cooler, it's bad play.

GimoG

The OP said the guy's got bluffs in him and the turn was a great card for him to bluff. We have a psb left ott when facing the raise and he can easily play TT/JJ this way.

Don't limp QQ pre from the LJ, queens is a raise pre.

We only have a PSB left because we bet the turn (i.e. we've done something wrong if we think we've committed ourselves given the IO we offered preflop).

JJ/TT certainly isn't out of the question, but most people simply don't play it this way against a preflop raiser who has done nothing but show strength.

And while the turn card isn't a bad bluff card, most opponents who aren't getting super out-of-line aren't going to turn it into a bluff against strength (they'll do it against weakness, which is again why I like a turn check back).

But maybe I'm just too old skool. Has bet/folding big streets simply gone out of style in LLSNL?

ETA: Regarding preflop, in my game there is still a very good chance one of the 5 players yet to act raises preflop, so I'm still perfectly fine with my overlimp/reraise plan in the LJ (which is UTG+2 in an 8 handed game, FWIW). But if OP's result is standard (HU in position with a playable SPR) then I'd be totally cool with opening (but that result is not standard in my game).

GcluelessNLnoobG