Eldiesel advice seems pretty solid. Nitty but solid. QQ is my JJ hand and I've lost many a stack, so my opion is slanted.

I hate calling as a set mine because pot odds are not good for set mining. There are lots of times I would raise on weak table and good image. Hero's image looks good, not sure if table is weak enough.

fold > raise>>>>>>call

OP, does this hand go further?

What do you mean it gets a call 100% of the time? He can't 5 bet you?

How do you have no clue post? If you 4 bet him and he only calls... with AA/KK most players are stacking right there preflop, so you can pretty well define his hand as AK, QQ, JJ, 1010, etc. and know youre ahead.

Why are you going to raise to $105? To make worse hands fold? Youre waaay ahead of JJ/1010 and want those hands to stay in. And, again, if you make it $80 (or even less) and he shoves, you can easily get away for fairly cheap... Unless of course like you said you think he may be the type of player to jam with AK.

You're forgetting about that 2 loose fish in the hand who've yet to call the 3b (one of whom is the player with whom we are actually 150BB deep; the old man and the nondescript fish only have 100BB each); while I agree that the old dude is unlikely to put more money in post with a worse hand, the fish are exceptionally likely to. I don't see the upside in getting to iso the likely better player with the certainly stronger range - that sounds like a con of 4betting to me, not a pro. I'd likely flat my entire continuing range here, which might be as tight as {QQ+, AKs}, because while it's certainly higher variance to go multiway to the flop, it's also much more +EV imo to give one of the loose players a chance to make a big mistake in a big pot than it is to flip with the likely nitty old guy for like $25 in dead money.

I'll post results by the end of the day. I'd like to let the discussion marinate a bit further.

Thank you to all for your insights so far. I envisioned a pretty lively discussion and I'm glad to see that all three of the basic options have their proponents.

What someone said above about players behind is spot on. Heads up is one decision, but with players behind you may find that one of them wakes up with KK or AA. Or 5 bets fishy. I wouldn't call down with QQ. Raise or fold. Given the players behind and the tight raiser, I'm leaning fold. Too many variables unaccounted for.

I wasn't considering the other Vs, this definitely makes flatting more plausible than I thought.

I still think it's a rare instance where V1 or the 40/2 player will do something ridiculous, V2 will get MUBSY with his top pair and fold the best hand, leaving us with the best hand and we'll have a good enough board texture (not 567hhh) to catch V1 or 40/2.

And I thought it was 1/2, my bad with the BBs.

Flatting allows the other V's to come along for the ride on the cheap and give us 3x the chance to stack someone when flopping a set, and it forces V2 to play more straightforward in a 3 or 4-way pot. He's not going to make a huge cbet with AK when he whiffs very often, or the much less likely JJ 3bet, but he will definitely bet big with KK/AA to protect his hand. If the pot is $140 and the flop comes 942 rainbow and he cbets $80+ into three other players I'm probably just folding given his description. If he checks flop then we almost always have the best hand and have a decent chance of getting some value from the other players in the hand. Folding gives us none of those options. This hand would suck a lot more being OOP.

I'm open to 4b/fold or cold call, but I'm unlikely to fold a top 5 hand to the stated action without a more nuanced read.

As described V2 is unlikely to continue with worse so the merit of 4betting can be quantified in an EV calculation. But comparing it to the myriad of permutations that a cold call can result in is impossible.

Cold calling is a viable option. With two loose players behind we have the odds to continue, however, we must be highly confident in our ability to play and read post as it can quickly become a RIO situation.

If we see a flop 4-ways, V2's action OTF should be transparent and we can act accordingly.

While every decision on the felt is highly dependent upon the villain, and this one is no different, this decision is also highly dependent upon the hero. What's our confidence level in our postflop ability relative to that of our opponents?

Personally, postflop I would set it or forget it, barring some overt passivity, turned or rivered straight or flush. The odds are there: we have two loose active players remaining and a higher degree of certainty in the willingness for at least one V to stack off when we hit as afforded by a lower SPR and a 3bet pre (relative to most set-mining situations.)

Since comparing the options is near impossible, I would take the line that is most likely to win a stack: cold calling.

Vs this player who i would expect to flat AK to a 3 bet very often, as well as not barrel it off without a pair, plus flat all other pairs for sure...

I will 4 bet to $65 and fold to a 5 bet. So many ordinary players do not ship AK like the nuts, to where I would never give them a default for shoving it. Doubt he would ever spaz out with JJ TT routinely since our 4 bet looks brutally strong.

One could argue for $75 and I wouldnt really dislike that either. I would rather keep it as much less than 25% the eff stack that i can though.

Agreed

If he doesn't spaz out with JJ/1010, why would we want to 4bet QQ? It makes zero sense to 4bet and have him fold everything we beat. The only time we should 4bet in this spot is if we are prepared to call it off. Calling is the only play here until we have a read that he'll stack off with worse.

Agree with the 4bet to ~75. If you had more info on the other villains flatting could be more profitable depending on their postflop fishyness. Never folding pre here.

v2 is a 50 yr old euro guy. Just because he hasn't played a hand doesn't mean he isn't loose, unwilling to 3bet light, etc. He can show up with all kinds of random hands here (KQ, AJs, 88-JJ, etc.).

Sometimes I flat QQ pre but this doesn't look like a great spot to do it. There's already $60 in the pot and either winning that preflop or getting heads up in position is a great result. Folding to a 5 bet shove though.

+1

Results:

Get ready for the most anti-climactic post ever.

I fold QQ. V1 mucks, other player mucks. V2 takes down the pot.

About half an hour later I'm talking to V2. He's asking about my chipstack and which hand got me the black chips. I ask him about the hand he 3bet. I ask if he had ace king and he nods, but it's possible he misheard my accent and thought I said "aces or kings." Or that he had AA and wanted to encourage the idea that his 3b range could be slightly wider. I think that was the only raise I saw him make for the 30-40 hands I observed; definitely the only 3b.

My in-game reasoning:
a) If V2's range is KK+, AK, then I'm at best a coinflip (assuming deal to river).
b) I don't have a ton of information/observations on V2 (not just for his range, but how he would play postflop; can he flat a 4b with KK+ and then x/c flop, etc).
c) Hate to admit this, but a little bit because I'm near the end of a session, felt tired, and wasn't super confident that I could make great reads in what felt like a weird spot. Decided to pass and wait for bigger edges.

There is actually nothing wrong with that thinking. You just need to realize as soon as you reach that point it's time to take a break or leave. Don't set a fixed schedule and say your playing to 3AM or such. Play until your not playing well and then head out. If that means getting a drink, stopping by the snack bar or just walking around the lobby while waiting for a ride, fine.