$1/$3 blinds, 8-handed at Crown Casino in Melbourne.

Hero ($1200) - Early 20's white guy. Loose image. On his 4th pint of beer. Pretends to have complete disregard for money.

Villain ($900) - Mid 20's Norwegian guy. TAG image. Probably an online player.

Hero is dealt 64dd on BTN

UTG limps for $3
MP1 limps for $3
MP2 raises to $6 (pot sweetener lol)
Villain 3bets to $22 in CO
Hero calls $22 on BTN
MP2 calls $22

Flop ($69, 3ways) is 4s 4c 2d

MP2 checks
Villain bets $40
Hero calls $40
MP2 folds

Turn ($141, HU) is 4h

Villain bets $90
Hero calls $90

River ($321, HU) is Tc

Villain checks
Hero ??? (we have $750 behind effectively)

What do you think about the way hero played this hand? And how much should we bet on the river?

Everyone will trash you for the preflop call but I don't mind it

Flop I am raising a lot of the time because how many 4's do you have in your preflop calling range once he made it 22? Any kind of decent pair (99+) is going to have trouble folding

I definitely raise turn...it looks so full of **** and also V might think you are raising some kind of boat because you think it's good....plus it bloats the pot and sets up a river shove

Fold pre.

I also like a turn raise. Looks weird. He should have a big pair that isn't folding here.

As played I bet $250 or so. I'd strongly consider an overbet here, up to all in, but we rep TT so credibly.

Fold pre

Raise turn

River is interesting. By checking he is signaling that he has air or a pair < 10s, very rarely JJ+. So a variety of bets could work here and what you choose might hinge on lol live tells

A gaybet/rr might be ok

Preflop probably isn't bad (in position, deep) but hand does have some RIO issues plus original raiser could reraise if he wasn't juicing. I suck at deepstack and find it difficult, I'd probably just fold, but putting in 2.4% of our stack preflop in position can't possibly be bad. Although if the main Villain is good then I doubt this is great (i.e. we're not winning his stack postflop, right?).

I think I'm cool with the flop call. We can still play for stacks by the river in position and there are no action killers. Plus we're cool with overcallers and possibly someone hitting an overcard if callers are loose.

On the turn we want to play for stacks by the river. If we just call, the pot will be $320 on the river with still huge $750 left to play. It looks like Villain has an overpair. I'd probably go $250. He's not expecting us to have a 4x (the only hand that beats him unless we're slowplaying a bigger overpair) and what idiot would raise quads on the turn anyways, amirite? This will setup a $640 pot with about $590 to shove on the river (a reasonable shove).

As played, on the river I would just shove. Honestly, it does look like a 4x the way we played it (hence why I would raise the turn which no one would expect). Let's see if Villain can hero fold his overpair; he'll pay off enough for this to most likely be the most profitable bet. Although, honestly, this is a huge bet in my room (actually, it would encounter the $700 max bet rule), and a good player (which this Villain probably is) could probably get away from it, but hopefully our drinking / disregard for money image helps us out here.

Gkindahatenotraisingtheturn,tbhG

FOLD PRE. Raise turn and jam river. AP, bet river large. Would probably go for slight overbet like $350-380

Shove river.

how narrow is Vs 3-bet range given the min raise? If it is a standard TAG 3-bet range of TT+ and AQ+, then I don't mind the call in position, as V should be pretty face up post flop. It's probably still a fold, but I don't think it is completely terrible, as long as you aren't just blindly doing it every time.

You really need to be raising the turn though. It is a dream situation. he almost always has an overpair and you have a Laggy FOS image. Use it to your advantage and make this pot as big as possible. I would raise turn to $250 to set up a river shove.

Occasionally he is going to just have AK/AQ and fold, but in those situations, you aren't winning much more money from him anyway unless he pairs on the river, so we should be targeting his TT+ range, which is a sizeable part of his range once he bets for a second time.

If he's remotely competent which op seems to suggest then $400ish sounds better to me than shoving; we have top set too often here

Yeah, I kinda ignored river card but that might be a bit of an action killer to where a smaller bet is better.

GraiseturnG

I actually didn't really consider raising the turn... I thought that calling flop and raising turn against a TAG would be a sure fire way to get him to fold. But now that I think about it: not many people will raise the turn after they hit quads. Most of the people raising the turn on a 4424r board will be doing it with a weak overpair in a futile attempt to try to "see where they're at". So this could've worked wonders. Nevertheless, I'll show you how it actually played out:

Results:

No doubt.

WP.

Zeebo's theorem alive and in the flesh

How does the 1/3 play there? I'm in the middle of a $900 (9 buyin downswing) playing 1/2 100 max 10bb ****ing rake poker. I lost a $550 pot with aces over jacks over 6s last night when he flipped a set of jacks pre when we were Ai preflop, I can't stand the variance or the rake, bankroll is now $350 after starting with $900