@ casino early afternoon on a Friday.

Lineup

BTN straddles to 6 - 2/5 player I played with, kinda loose and not afraid to raise, folds to massive aggression. All my play with him has been at 2/5, we’re both waiting for the game to starts. 800ish effective
Sb folds
Bb calls - no consequence to the hand
UTG calls - no consequence to the hand
UTG+ 1calls - sitting 2300ish deep, saying buzz words like range, blockers... douchey looking early 30s white guy. I’m sure you know the self entitled type
UTG+2folds
MP calls - maniac, middle aged black guy. Can show up with anything, approx 400 deep
MP+1 calls - 20s Asian guy, tight, 600ish deep
HJ calls - 30s black guy, hasn’t been too out of line, but haven’t seen too much from him
Co - Hero has 1200, I got most of my money from 1 hand where I flopped top and bottom on QJT in a massively bloated pot by a maniac, I jammed river when a BDFD hit and he basically snap called with presumably 1 pair or worse 2 pair


Hero has AdTc and hero...?

Raise to $60

Raises to $50

Is anyone just folding pre?

Spoiler alert: I did not fold

Obviously a fold here is fine. In a lot of games we will find A10 a dominated hand even by limpers. But what a boring PAHWM.

Nor is a raise here bad. There is $30+ in the middle and a dream situation to take it down pre, or play a hand IP.

Raise $50 and hope to take it down?

I suppose this is a text-book raise but I’m always concerned some wise ass is limping a big hand in a straddled pot hoping someone in late position will stab with a raise so he can re-pop.

The issue is that the button may 3b behind us to isolate us in position. Post flop we will be with a Rio hand oop and also capped against a clever V. For me, this is a live read situation even though it’s a textbook raise. Folding is ok too.

I would rather just fold this. In general at 1/2 I don't think ATo has enough strength for this because you should still expect to get called and villains will turn up with AJ-AK here despite the limp/call. Plus, with all those limps in a straddled pot your going to have to go really big. I would be happier with this squeeze at 2/5.

If you do want to play then squeeze hard. There is $36 in the pot already, you need to go $50-$60.

No real way to lay a plan yet because there are too many things that could happen pre and post flop. Mostly though you are squeezing light and should be hoping everybody folds preflop. If you do get action you can continue a bluff post in some situations but it's going to be expensive.

If hero raises to $50-$50 in this 1/3 game, there is no sane player on the button who is going to 3 bet us without a monster. Not happening.

Raise to $60 fold to any aggression

This hand is definitely profitable as either a limp or a raise, but raising should be better. $60

So normally i would want a little more info on bb and utg including stacks but i think with how deep the game is playing we shouldnt overplay at offsuit, player can get pretty sticky preflop.. limp or fold is fine

Also not really feeling the 50 or 60 raise amount suggested. Hero all ready has good position and raises of 25 - 40 can often be more profitable in my experience.

This.

There is $42 in the pot already. We'd like to take that $$$ without seeing a flop.

If we get called by better Aces, we'll have to be able to win this hand post flop by getting folds. Hopefully we can do this.

With a middling Ace, we're really not looking to flop Axy anyway.

Thanks Mike. If he 4b, are you folding or playing poker?

Hero elects to limp. ATo is probably ahead of most of most of the limpers but not many flops will be great, sure we’re IP, but what if we raise big and get called, we’re gonna have to fold pretty often IMO

BTN (800) straddle raises $40
UTG+1 (2300) calls
MP (400) calls
MP+1 (600) calls
HJ (400) calls

Hero calls


Based on limping and closing the action I’m not sure there is too much in the way of discussion on this. Feel free to chime in if you think I’m wrong but I’m not gonna wait a full day to move on.

Flop (250): Jd7d2s

UTG+1 checks
MP checks
MP+1 checks
HJ checks

Hero?

little late here. I would have cranked it up to 60 pre personally. The button is clearly a playa...and following suit and limping is just begging to get raised - which is exactly what happened.

Just outta curiosity - in your notes you obv reailized this as you say he's not afraid to raise. This is honestly a sweet lrr spot

did you consider lrr your ato?
would you have lrr'd AQ,AK,KK,AA here? or would you have just raised?

Chk is obv?

i had anticipated he could/would raise, and i was ok with that outcome. i was actually ok with any outcome as i do think i had a skill advantage over the table. i think the problem with raising to 60 is i honestly didn't expect it to thin the field much, which considering how quickly everyone snapped onto the 40, i think 60 would have had generally the same effect. probably would have had to go like 80 to really thin everything out.

had the entire world not called or i had been sooooted, i probably would have l/rr him - unrelated to the hand it happened later, so it wasn't outside my thought process.

i mean, yes, i think so to, but wanted to see if anyone had any other plays.

i did check, i will go to the next decision point quicker for this specific one, but i figured i would put it out there.

Limp is my least favorite option with ATo. It doesn't have enough potential and if you flop one pair you will often be guessing if you have the best hand or not. I would limp ATs because of the nut flush potential.

After the raise I would fold. Your getting big odds but the pot is going to be bloated. Your generally either going to have to hit the flop hard or give up. There are just not enough good flops for ATo to justify a call.

Flop check is obvious. The board is just disorganized enough that I would be tempted to try and steal it when everybody checks. But the pots too bloated, it isn't worth 75BB to find out if anybody is interested. It too likely one of the shorter stacks will shove with some weak made hand or a draw. Take the free card and hope it's a diamond because any one pair puts you in guess work territory.

Ugh. I think the l/rr is best, but super high variance. Doubt i would pull the trigger myself. To often though we get called by a limped AK-AJ, or BTN can actually have a hand. I think fold is safe, and call is neutral EV. With position we can play smart post flop, but without actually hitting our hand winning is going to be tough 6 ways.

AP check back flop and hope for a check through.

I dislike the limp.
I really hate the over call of $40 after 4 other callers even more.

I wouldnt call that a 4 bet. Id call it a 3 bet, but either way I would be folding.

False.