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1-3 nl Tricky Spot 250bigs with AK 1-3 nl Tricky Spot 250bigs with AK

04-22-2016 , 08:40 AM
Game has started 30 minutes ago.

Hero has a tight solid image at the table, and has been winning since game started.
Hero 700 Stack

villain 1 started with 1k. Villain plays quite agressive and opens a ton. Villain understand game pretty well and is a capable player.

Villain 2: 300stack villain is very fishy and calling station. villain is a reactional amateur.

Preflop
2 Limps before Villain 1 raises to 20 from mp
hero calls 20 from hj / AK
villain 2 cold calls from bttn
all limpers fold

Flop (70)
K93
villain 1 cbets to 48, hero calls, villain 2 calls.

Turn (214)
J
villain 1 checks
Hero? Bet or check?
1-3 nl Tricky Spot 250bigs with AK Quote
04-22-2016 , 09:00 AM
Bet 100. We rate to have the best hand here quite often and V2 is a calling station. V1 is capable of having a big hand here but it seems like he was just cbetting and now is giving up.
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04-22-2016 , 09:08 AM
I like the flat pre. Flop I will actually raise sometimes, but calling is okay too. Turn bet $135 for value.
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04-22-2016 , 09:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StackedYouSon
Bet 100. We rate to have the best hand here quite often and V2 is a calling station. V1 is capable of having a big hand here but it seems like he was just cbetting and now is giving up.
I agree with this. We're committing ourselves against V2 but can still get away from the hand if V1 raises. Ideal situation is V2 calls, V1 folds and we shove river for less than 1/2 a PSB.
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04-22-2016 , 09:12 AM
Bet turn, rarely V1 traps with strong made hand.
But 3b pre, must be better than check.
1-3 nl Tricky Spot 250bigs with AK Quote
04-22-2016 , 09:13 AM
Against this villian flatting AK is good once in a while to mix up your game. I just wouldn't do it often.

Good as played. I'd bet more on the side of $135 than $100 for turn, charge the fish for his draw and make some extra money
1-3 nl Tricky Spot 250bigs with AK Quote
04-22-2016 , 09:21 AM
I would normally say 3bet the AK pre. But the fish is full stacked and we want him in the hand as we will stack him more often than the deep stacked competent player. So calling is fine in my book, to bring along the fish. I think the call on the flop is fine as well, keeps v1 in the hand and lets fish see the turn. Bet turn for value


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1-3 nl Tricky Spot 250bigs with AK Quote
04-22-2016 , 09:32 AM
bet 150. v1 is likely giving up. v2 can have a pretty wide range since he's a station.
1-3 nl Tricky Spot 250bigs with AK Quote
04-22-2016 , 10:14 AM
I'd be 3betting this hand more often than not, prob something like 2/3 of the time. The downside is that you push out the fish, but you're printing money vs. V1's range and you have the initiative.

As played flat flop, bet/call turn vs. fish and bet/fold vs V1.
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04-22-2016 , 11:50 AM
I'm cool with first couple of streets. I'm guessing we could 3bet preflop too, but being deep in position with no other real dead money in the pot I lean towards just flatting (but I'm passive like that). Although we are going to whiff a lot and this aggro guy will steal a lotta flops that we don't float, plus a call might invite too many others into the pot, so maybe a 3bet is better. Also cool with just flatting the flop bet and see what happens in position, with my plan hoping that he just keeps aggroing into me.

Tricky spot on the turn as fish behind us only has a little over a PSB left. Part of me is thinking of just putting that in. But another part of me is thinking bet way smaller cuz he'll absolutely tell me now if I'm beat, although I guess bet/folding with just a ~PSB is kinda meh. I probably shove the shortstack but I'm not sure about that. Not worried about V1 at this point, looks like he's done with his air.

GcluelessNLnoobG
1-3 nl Tricky Spot 250bigs with AK Quote
04-22-2016 , 11:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by samuelwong
bet 150.
In a vacuum this is probably a better bet size than anything much smaller. The problem is that Villain only has $232 left. If we bet $150, this creates a $514 pot with a lol $83 for the river.

If we're betting the turn, we might as well just shove the $232, no?

GcluelessNLnoobG
1-3 nl Tricky Spot 250bigs with AK Quote
04-22-2016 , 05:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
In a vacuum this is probably a better bet size than anything much smaller. The problem is that Villain only has $232 left. If we bet $150, this creates a $514 pot with a lol $83 for the river.

If we're betting the turn, we might as well just shove the $232, no?

GcluelessNLnoobG
V1 is still in the hand and we are deep with him... Do we really want to potentially give ourselves better odds to stack off to a c/r shove with him?
1-3 nl Tricky Spot 250bigs with AK Quote
04-22-2016 , 05:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StackedYouSon
V1 is still in the hand and we are deep with him... Do we really want to potentially give ourselves better odds to stack off to a c/r shove with him?
Ya, that's definitely tricky. I'm just hoping V1 is playing his hand a little more honestly now that we've gone to the turn 3way (where I doubt he's checking a big hand on a drawy board). If he check/shoves (especially if V2 gets involved) we can probably safely let it go but admittedly we lose more money in this case than if we just bet smaller.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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