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Hero(btn, $700): hero just sat down 20 mins. Showed bluff once.
v1(BB, $1000): seems running hot. Saw him raise with ks6s and A7s to 15


Preflop: folds to hero, hero raises to 12 with AhKh. SB calls bb calls

Flop - Jh9h4d
SB checks, v1 checks, hero bets 25. SB calls. V1 raises to 75. Hero tank calls.

Turn - 6d. V1 checks. Hero bets 100. V1 calls quickly.

River - Tc . V all in

Hero folds. My question is should I re raise on flop?

I think we are too deep to get into a raising war here and I have doubts about our fold equity. Getting 4 bet big would suck. I think we should be happy to call and keep SB in there to pad our implied odds when we hit.

Villian checking the turn is weird for sure, but after his flop aggression I really can´t see him folding. I would take the free card and see a river. Getting c/r doesn´t seem very likely but it is possible and I really wouldn´t like that.

If we took the free card, the river bricked, villain bet smallish, it would be an interesting spot for sure. Nut no pair could easily be good given turn check...I´m going off on a tangent here, I know. I mention it because I assume part of the reason you bet the turn was to see a free showdown when he calls and river doesn´t improve our hand.

What makes you think re-raising on the flop may have been a good idea?

I wouldn't even c-bet the flop vs two players. J9 on flop hits plenty of blind's calling ranges so I don't think cbet can fold anything that's ahead of hero or indeed get many folds at all. I'd take the free card on the flop and keep the pot small for all the times I hit an A or K on turn.

As played I'd never reraise the flop without significant history with raiser. I'd call the raise and check back the turn. Getting the free card on the river is worth much more than trying to see a free showdown. After villain checks turn and you check back your nut-no-pair can win at showdown vs a reasonable bet anyway so what is the point in making the turn more expensive for yourself? I really don't think villain folds much on the turn to a half pot sized bet after x/r flop.

As played folding river is absolutely correct.

Bigger pre. Your hand looks like a monster but your most likely winning hand is one pair, not flush, so you don't want everyone in the pot cheap. I do understand that it was folded to you on the button. I'd still make it bigger. It might even look bluffy and a blind might play back at you. All the better.

As played, I'm down w the c bet. 2 overs and NFD. And I'd call the check raise. Should you re raise or shove? Will V fold a pair here? If you have no FE, calling is best. If you have a read that V might fold a J, I like raising. But if he's running hot and you've been caught bluffing, raising is probably not the best play.
Turn: take the free card.
River: easy fold.

I disagree that better hands can´t fold. Stuff like 88-55,33,22,A4,K4s,54s,64s. Maybe even T9s,98s,97s.

Putting the money in on the flop is better than on the turn because our equity is higher there and we build a pot for ourselves when we improve on the turn.
Decent equity, positional advantage (can likely get a free card on the turn), non zero fold equity makes this an obvious bet to me.

I assume your planned line after you check back flop is to call most turn bets UI and fold to most river bets UI. Do you think you are much less likely to get bluffed on the river with this line compared with betting flop and checking back Turn UI?

To add balance to my line against bluffy opponents we could check back some A or Kings on the turn. That or just man up and call off some river bets with our nut no pair when our bluff alarm goes off.

The way I see a good LAG playing this is with a smaller flop bet (which is a normal sized bet for him), barrel on a lot of turns UI (especially if he only gets one caller on the flop), triple barrel on the river a non zero percentage of the time when he senses weakness.

raise $15-$20 pre.

C bet is ok if that would be your normal size, hit or miss. I would just do $20, which would make the raise $60. Little easier to peel a street there I think.

V check raised you on the flop, then was willing to give you a free card on the turn. Why didn't you take it?

easy fold.




I would need TPTK AND NFD to 3 bet V on the flop.

These hands don't fold to a single bet on the flop where I play

However, I don't disagree with your analysis or line - I just don't play that way at low stakes live myself. I get more aggressive in HU pots but play pretty conservatively vs 2 or more players. Basically I'm not really looking to exploit fold equity since I rarely think I have any. Obviously if I find a player who can fold I will change my plan.

In answer to your question I would call the turn UI after checking back the flop and then evaluate the action on the river maybe calling, maybe folding but never attempting a bluff raise since I look like I was drawing at a flush that missed!

Thinking about betting flop to get free card on the turn - yes fine but by checking turn we are sure we get one free street and that goes up in value the more players you face on the flop.

HU I take your line near 100% of time though.

I also like a turn x/b, pretty narrow range the raises flop and now folds turn. Take the free card, getting c/r now REALY sucks so yea. Also when you x/b turn pretty much forces him to bet out on river with all hits sets and 2pair type hands that where trapping on turn and lets you get a raise in when you hit

I would probably bet $30 on the flop, but the rest seems pretty standard.

The only reason to bet the flop is because you think betting has a higher EV than checking. That's only going to be true if we often expect two folds. Betting small and getting two calls is higher EV than betting big and getting one call.

Betting because you have a flush draw, or because you'll have less equity later, isn't logical.

I'm betting because I think we likely have 50% or more equity in the hand. I think betting actually conceals our hand and improves our chances of getting paid off when we make a flush or top pair on the turn. I'm also assuming we will have the option of taking a free card most of the time.

If we c bet, get one caller, non heart queen comes on turn, are we barrelling?

with our stack size---yes, for 1/2 PSB

I would bet the flop. You have to build the pot for the flush over flush scenarios. I would smooth the check-raise as you did too. He messed up by checking the turn. If he bet the right amount, he could've priced you out on the turn. Now, I think you wrongfully bet the turn when you could've just checked. Checking gives you two cards for the price of one from the flop, with the nut flush draw and other slimmer possibile ways to win. You missed the river, he overbet, you fold.

I don't think reraising the flop is a good idea. All sets jam and then you fold or call if you're already priced in because of the size of your 4-bet.

I think where you messed up was betting the turn. You gave him over 3:1. Checking the turn would've saved you $100 and gave you better odds on your flop draw because of your free river card.

I don't get the line, myself. Maybe it makes sense at a higher limit. Are you betting the flop as a bluff or for value? Semi-bluff? Why in the world are you betting the turn? Few 1-3 villains fold at this point.

Flop:
In my experience villains expect the c-bet and call more often than not. It's a rare villain who will fold here, and with two villains in the hand ... just doesn't make sense to bet here. Take the free card. You just end up bloating the pot. Your hand isn't good enough yet that you want to bloat the pot.

I would seriously consider making a move after villain raises you on the flop, but only if villain has a shorter stack and you can effectively put him all in. At these stakes, at least, the flush draw semibluff all-on on the flop is a great move ... but the stars aren't aligning for it with these stack sizes.

I think betting or checking the flop is fine in different games vs different opponents. E.g. If one villain always calls two streets and folds river to large bet without the nuts while other fit folds the flop then I would tend to cbet. If both chase and show down second pair or worse regularly I will take the free turn card offered me on the flop. If either villain likes to stab at pots once checked through multi streets I may x/c uinimproved to showdown. If they just fold a lot on the flop I will cbet flop.

Also table dynamics as a whole matter. If it is a very loose-passive game frequently going multiway I will just wait till I hit big before starting betting because I know I can afford to be patient. If it is an aggressive game I will cbet because I know I need to try to take down my share of pots if I'm not going to get whittled away. If it is a tough game with regulars who are paying attention then I will be mixing it up to cause my opponents some confusion.

In the game I play at my casino my default would be to check vs 2+ players and take the guaranteed free card offered on the flop. Kookiemonster's line would be my standard line vs 1 opponent, vs up to 3 players at a new table i'm not familiar with or at a more aggressive game than my regular game.

I don't like gii on flop - in my experience villain's flop raise will be a set (2-pair at worst). Therefore you have no fold equity with a shove and end up gii <50% equity with the greater portion of your stack. Maybe vs a real short stack fine. Otherwise I think I can find better spots to gii.

No.

I'm cool with preflop.

I'd probably bet smaller on the flop (say $20) so that we have better implied odds to call a raise. I'd also call the raise since we're quite deep and Villain's action is strong, although it is a little scary at this point since SB is still to react behind us. Even though we have a very strong hand (two overs and the nut flush draw) I would not reraise because there ain't a lotta money in the middle compared to stacks plus if someone is willing to get in huge stacks now then we are a huge dog.

I woulda checked back the turn. I'm not sure why Villain checked to us, but I just take the free card as we'd hate to be raised off our nice draw. We also have showdown value against worse draws (*possibly* even enough to call a small bet on the river).

I also fold the river.

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Betting flop is mandatory given that we are a favorite against basically any hand in V's ranges except sets. Calling the flop range is fine, raising to GII is probably fine as well, but it's going to be very high variance. If we were 100 bb deep I would ship the flop. This deep, I likely just call unless I know V has a fold button.

Why on earth did we bet the turn?

AP, river fold is completely standard.

There are no mandatory bets in poker except for the blinds

Grunch, calling is best on this flop. Check back turn though.