V's range is mostly FDs and weaker aces. I go ahead and bet again for value, planning to b/f. Weaker aces will often pay off three streets on paired boards, as they are unbelievers. FD's will pay OTT, but not OTR if they miss, so get value. Better hands will usually raise on a board this wet, and rarely will straight forward V's bluff an ace-high paired board, so we can pretty confidently fold if raised.
I will often limp big suited Ax in EP (sometimes to limp/reraise depending on action) as it plays much better multiway than the offsuit variety, and being in EP we really don't know what kind of result to expect plus will be OOP postflop. But my table would also rarely be narrowed to just 3way with a $12 open, so it looks like our tables might play differently.
Looks like we have an SPR of 8.5 or so. This is a bit tricky of an SPR to play OOP due to the fact that anyone can make us easily play for stacks by betting the 3 postflop streets, and we can also unwittingly commit ourselves for stacks by the river with bets on the flop/turn.
So I'm either/or on the flop. The board does have draws that can pay off, and it's possible a worse A might actually pay us off for stacks over 3 streets, so betting ain't horrible. But with this SPR, I actually don't mind a street checking thru, or even someone else taking over the betting lead. If we are to bet, I'd probably bet smaller, otherwise we very quickly get on our way to playing for stacks.
The turn is a good example of the situation we're in. If we bet a fairly reasonable 2/3 PSB and ain't raised (where we could probably get away from the hand), we'll leave ourselves with < PSB for the river OOP, and then what?
The hand played out with me betting 60 on the turn, getting a call and catching my runner runner flush on the river, I shoved got called and won. Villain claimed to have the jack, which I believe. I had posted the question based also on what I thought he should have done with the Jack (jam it after the turn bet), me betting the turn would've made that a tough fold were I to get raised, maybe making the turn bet a bad bet. I'm thinking check/call turn was the right play here.
V's range is mostly FDs and weaker aces. I go ahead and bet again for value, planning to b/f. Weaker aces will often pay off three streets on paired boards, as they are unbelievers. FD's will pay OTT, but not OTR if they miss, so get value. Better hands will usually raise on a board this wet, and rarely will straight forward V's bluff an ace-high paired board, so we can pretty confidently fold if raised.
Did you miss our BDNFD on turn? We are too strong to bet fold.
I probably go a little smaller on the flop $25. Rainbow I'd often check the flop but with the FD on board I like betting. $30 isn't bad.
OTT I bet again. Probably more like half pot so $45 or $50.
In this line though river sucks. I don't want to C/F for a PSB and I really don't want to B/F and I don't want to call a PSB and I don't want to shove.
Hitting your back door flush really is the best option.
Edit: Actually with the FD on the turn X/C > B/F and probably > B/C too
You're right psujohn, posted results too early, it's one of those hands where betting turn is going to give me a really bad spot on the river. I think check/call is the play, thanks.
