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1/3 NL Jacks UTG facing 3-bet 1/3 NL Jacks UTG facing 3-bet

04-19-2014 , 09:30 AM
9 handed

Hero opens JdJh from Utg to 15

2 extremely loose passive fish call from MP and CO, they both have about 900 behind

Villain on button raises to 75, has about 250 behind.

blinds fold back to hero who covers everyone

Hero has been at table 10+ hours but villain sat down 45 minutes ago. I'm in my young 20's and I look very tired at this point. I've been playing tight and somewhat abc because the table is full of aggro tards. Right after Villain sat down, I won a 400bb pot against 2 fish with the nuts. I've been opening very few hands in early position and have been pretty tight in general.

Villain seems reggish and somewhat competent. Normal looking guy in late 20's. He first sat down on Hero's left and quickly moved so the fish were on his right. He's been playing pretty tight as well and maybe slightly card dead. I have no specific hand reads on him.

There has been no 3betting or squeeze dynamic at the table. 5 hands earlier I 3 bet villain's button open from the BB, he and the SB called. I c-bet a dry board and they both folded. Besides that, there's been maybe 2-3 3bets in the past hour, if that.

I don't see him raising light here. He has to know my utg open is very strong. If he had a hand like AJs, I think he'd flat to keep the fish in while in position.

On the other hand, I might be giving him too much credit. I guess it's possible he's making a move on the button with a mediocre hand, knowing that the 2 fish will fold their weak range a lot. 75 is a lot even with 2 other callers.

4-betting commits us. calling sucks, unless we know both fish will call. Fold?

Last edited by cmill72; 04-19-2014 at 09:58 AM.
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04-19-2014 , 09:56 AM
Everything you said about this situation makes it a fold. You're OOP vs. a range that dominates the crap out of you. If I read you as having a tight UTG raising range I'll pop it big with AA OTB because I'm pretty sure you've got a hand you'll stack off with and want to get the monies in.
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04-19-2014 , 10:01 AM
+1 to everything Koss said above me.

I cant find one simple argument for justifying to continue putting money into this pot. On the other hand your opening post is jammed full of arguments to why we infact should get the hell out of this hand. Sometimes the easy/simple option is the best one. Fold.

1) You have only put in 15 bucks in the pot this far, not a significant amount at all.

2) You arent even close to get correct setmining odds.

3) The 3 bettor has put in like 25 percent of his stack preflop and is clearly not doing this with the intention of 3 bet/folding with his sizing.

4) You tell us that you guys dont have any reraise/ 3 bet dynamics going on, wich make it less likely villain is out of line here. Not to forget that he is doing this against 3 players, wich makes it even less likely he is out of line.

5) I could go on forever, but i think you get my point

Last edited by Gilmour; 04-19-2014 at 10:12 AM.
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04-19-2014 , 10:45 AM
Fold. You answered your own question with villain descriptions and your own perceived range. You can't set mine profitably and you are almost guaranteed to have 20% equity if we gii. Fold and move on to the next one.
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