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1/3 NL: AA on CO 1/3 NL: AA on CO

02-15-2015 , 10:53 PM
1/3 $300 max buy-in

Hero(co,270): not very tight but aggressive.

V(HJ, 360): 50s white guy. like to see flop if multi callers(raise and limp). Lost one buy in because flush draw. And just won one pot with ace high.( both are flush draw)

Preflop: btn straddle. 3 limpers. Hero raises to 26 with black AA. 3 callers.

Flop: 2cTc9h
Check check check hero bets 75. Fold, fold, V in HJ tank call
Turn: 8d
V checks. Hero?? ?? All in? Check back?
Spoiler:

Hero all in. V instant call.
1/3 NL: AA on CO Quote
02-15-2015 , 10:55 PM
Get value from Tx and fds. Shove turn.
1/3 NL: AA on CO Quote
02-15-2015 , 11:53 PM
Easy shove.
1/3 NL: AA on CO Quote
02-16-2015 , 03:26 AM
shove
1/3 NL: AA on CO Quote
02-16-2015 , 03:56 AM
Grunch:

Super easy shove.
1/3 NL: AA on CO Quote
02-16-2015 , 09:54 AM
WP OP. What did V have?
1/3 NL: AA on CO Quote
02-16-2015 , 09:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonSM
shove
+1
1/3 NL: AA on CO Quote
02-16-2015 , 10:05 AM
On the turn, pot size: 225, hero's stack: 170. Shove.

Can't check due to all the draws. Can't bet/fold. Only one option. Call a chip runner if V has a set or QJ.
1/3 NL: AA on CO Quote
02-16-2015 , 12:39 PM
Results:
Spoiler:

River: 2d
V shows JQo. Hero got two hands AA and lost two buy-ins in that session.Called it a day after this hand.
1/3 NL: AA on CO Quote
02-16-2015 , 01:51 PM
With the straddle on and already a bunch of interest in this pot, plus our smallish stack size (only 45bbs with straddle), I'd raise slightly more to help thin the field, say $30+ (but depends on looseness of limpers / table in general). We don't want to be going 4ways to the flop here, imo.

Here's the problem now. The SPR is < 2.5, which means stacks are trivially easy to get in and really there's nothing much else we can do with an overpair in this situation (as any initial reasonable bet will commit us to the pot). But at the same time, we just offered 3 opponents about 15:1 implied odds to stack us, which ain't bad (they really aren't making that much of a mistake seeing a flop, unless they play really bad postflop).

Anyhoo, I also bet big on the flop and then shove the rest in on the turn.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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02-16-2015 , 06:35 PM
What is the effective stack? I'll assume it's $300.

PF: How much did the button straddle? I'll assume it was $6. So we've got three limpers. I was about to post "Well done" for the pre-flop raise, but then I realized the button straddle was on; $26 is too low for a button straddled pot with three limpers. After the three limpers there is already $28 in the pot. We need to raise more. I would of raised to something like $42 to $45.

With your raise, these are the odds everyone is getting if you get a string of callers

BTN is getting: 2.4:1
Limper 1 is getting: 3.4:1
Limper 2 is getting: 4.4:1
Limper 3 is getting: 5.4:1

If you raise to $42:

BTN is getting: 1.8:1
Limper 1 is getting: 2.8:1
Limper 2 is getting: 3.8: 1
Limper 3 is getting: 4.8: 1

F: Pot is $114 and we've got $274 left. SPR is 2.4. Awesome SPR for a big overpair.

We bet 2/3P. Good! We know that we'll have $199 left to bet on the turn when the pot is $264 (assumes one caller). We've just put in a third of our stack. We should be committed.

T: Yes, the 8 completes straight draws such as QJ, but we're committed right. I'd bet my last $199 into the pot of $264.

Last edited by Below Zero; 02-16-2015 at 06:43 PM.
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02-16-2015 , 06:51 PM
@ BelowZero

Even more important than the immediate odds players are getting is their implied odds, especially since the SPR will be so low that we probably won't be able to fold an overpair on anything but the worse boards.

And while the small SPR is good for an overpair, it is better with fewer people in the pot (as SPR concepts start breaking down with more prefflop callers due to implied odds).

But overall I play the hand pretty much the same as you on each street (although I'd raise slightly less than you preflop).

GcluelessNLnoobG
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02-16-2015 , 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
And while the small SPR is good for an overpair, it is better with fewer people in the pot (as SPR concepts start breaking down with more prefflop callers due to implied odds).
Good Point! That's true. Didn't think about that!
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