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Bet less on the flop so you can bet the turn without committing yourself. V can show up with some stupid hands that you're not expecting once in a while too. $80 flop $120 turn.

You want to 4bet to $105 pre and then bet $80 into a $231 pot on the flop? Is this to induce or to keep worse hands in?

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08-02-2017 , 02:14 PM

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Amanaplan

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Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 5,628

It's strictly for value and quite standard in a 4b pot, IP w a good OP on a nothing board.

You'd like your opponent to defend his entire range, get in a couple of streets, and keep things as wide as you can (not easy in a 4b pot) esp with a medium strong hand. You keep mentioning getting ck-r, it doesn't happen often in 4b pots and for good reason.

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08-02-2017 , 03:31 PM

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wj94

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,951

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Originally Posted by Javanewt

You want to 4bet to $105 pre and then bet $80 into a $231 pot on the flop? Is this to induce or to keep worse hands in?

Both, and I didn't say to 4b to $105 pre...but here we are, so I'd bet $80. Is V going to call a flop bet and turn jam with AK/JJ? Two streets of value > one street of value

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08-02-2017 , 04:47 PM

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fluxboy

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 241

Please note, the following advice is not Snowie approved...

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I see strong parallels between this hand and a recent Game of Thrones episode.

Remember earlier this week when Daenerys Stormborn chose to win the hearts and minds of her people by launching a multifaceted campaign against various military strongholds?

How'd that work out?

Her Unsullied are starving, her navy is sunk, and her allies are captured.

To recap: