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1/3 LIVE hand in casino. After playing for 8 hours, this hand contributed to my demise 1/3 LIVE hand in casino. After playing for 8 hours, this hand contributed to my demise

05-27-2014 , 01:55 AM
1/3 live hand at a local casino. A 65 year old man that drove his RV cross the state to gamble for Memorial day. He's nice guy, but a total calling station.

MP-LIMPS $3
MP-LIMPS $3
HJ-LIMPS $3
CO-LIMPS $3
Villain-SB-$650 stack LIMPS $2
Me-BB-$380 stack CHECKS w/Q,6o

Flop-66Jo $22

Everyone including villain CHECKS
Me- Bets $12
Everyone FOLDS except, Villain
Villain Calls

Turn- 3 $46
Villain Donk bets $25
I call

River-2 $96
Villain bets $50
I call

Villain shows A,6 and scoops pot

I went ahead and showed the results because its obvious this guy had a 6. I knew it the whole time. My question though is...considering he "feeds" the game normally with his weak passive style. AND, it was a limped pot so he could have had anything, should I still have found a fold? One of my mistakes was letting the Donk bet on the turn throw me off. I tried to overthink it. Instead of saying, fish/weak players donk bet because they like what they see and they can't NOT bet (unlike some traditional "good" players who might use this as a weak lead to see where they are at). Thanks for any input.

Last edited by Wetworks; 05-27-2014 at 01:58 AM. Reason: spelling
05-27-2014 , 02:01 AM
Well played. We beat most 6s.

BTW, not every1 checked on the flop. Only the SB checked and then you bet.
05-27-2014 , 02:05 AM
These guys won't donk with Jx here. It'll be 6x. The problem is you have a pretty good kicker with the trips so it's difficult to fold. V was in the SB so he has any 6x possibility. If you had AA, and the pf and flop action remained the same, and he donks ott, I think it's a pretty easy fold. Don't level yourself into thinking he has Jx, he'd c/c with that the whole way.

I'd probably just flat ott, flat otr, and it actually is a cooler because we couldn't fold our BB pf.
05-27-2014 , 02:15 AM
Grunch. Don't be results oriented. I think you misplayed hand even though you got lucky to lose the minimum. Bet bigger on flop. I would've raise turn in your spot and jam river if he can't fold trips. You're ahead of his range even if his range is 6x and boats. I repeat: we're playing against a range and not one exact hand. We're ahead of his range so we want to put in alot of money
05-27-2014 , 02:22 AM
Get pokerstove and learn to use it. It's free but worthwhile. If we range him on all 6x, we are 62% favorite to win. Add in pocket 3s to his range, and we are 58% favorite on turn and 54% on river. So you actually made a mistake by not raising. You managed to lose the minimum by playing badly, congrats
05-27-2014 , 02:28 AM
^ I think JJ is more likely than 33. I also don't think V is willing to get ai with 64/65/67 at any point in the hand. These are the guys who tank call with the 2nd/3rd nut flush on non-paired boards.

It might sound ridiculous but I'd say ott, r/f > flat > r/c.
05-27-2014 , 02:40 AM
I actually like r/f on the turn as well. It is a mistake to not get a raise in on the turn or river vs a stationy player, and I would not be excited to get it in either, so seems good.
05-27-2014 , 02:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eldiesel
^ I think JJ is more likely than 33. I also don't think V is willing to get ai with 64/65/67 at any point in the hand. These are the guys who tank call with the 2nd/3rd nut flush on non-paired boards.

It might sound ridiculous but I'd say ott, r/f > flat > r/c.
Even most passive players raise JJ pre. Take out 33 and we're an even bigger favorite which is an argument for raising turn. Villain is described as total station. Agreed that Q6 is pretty thin though and calling down isn't really giving up much. K6 and A6 are definitely raises
05-27-2014 , 03:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slimshady1999
Get pokerstove and learn to use it. It's free but worthwhile. If we range him on all 6x, we are 62% favorite to win. Add in pocket 3s to his range, and we are 58% favorite on turn and 54% on river. So you actually made a mistake by not raising. You managed to lose the minimum by playing badly, congrats
I respect your advise, and more often than not agree with you. I don't know that I would call this playing badly. Uhhmmm, thats a stretch. By keeping the pot small and loosing the minimum? OOOK. Your right, we want to be decision oriented. And yes, there is an argument for raising the turn. That being said, this is a live game, Reads are invaluable. One thing I didn't put in the initial post (I didn't want to cloud the responses) was, after betting he would sit back in his chair, and turn his neck to the side and pretend to watch the baseball game. When it would be his turn, he would go...Huh? Oh! Sorry bout that. Is it on me? Then after betting, go turn back around and act like he was more interested in the baseball game that his hand. He was strong. Now that being said...Even without this read, I think saying i played it badly is way off. Thanks for your input.

Last edited by Wetworks; 05-27-2014 at 03:28 AM. Reason: spell
05-27-2014 , 03:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eldiesel
These guys won't donk with Jx here. It'll be 6x. The problem is you have a pretty good kicker with the trips so it's difficult to fold. V was in the SB so he has any 6x possibility. If you had AA, and the pf and flop action remained the same, and he donks ott, I think it's a pretty easy fold. Don't level yourself into thinking he has Jx, he'd c/c with that the whole way.

I'd probably just flat ott, flat otr, and it actually is a cooler because we couldn't fold our BB pf.
Once again....thanks! Your advise is outstanding and explained very well.
05-27-2014 , 03:30 AM
BBV -------->
05-27-2014 , 11:07 AM
Still trying to figure out how everyone checks..... and then you bet $12 from the BB.
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