1/3 NL

Kinda sucky table cuz the stacks are all quite small, my $300 max buyin (which I always maintain) covers everyone.

UTG ($25) limps. Her first time playing at a casino.

UTG+3 ($175) makes it $15. Young kid waiting for 2/5 opening up a huge range of hands (earlier 3betting outta the SB with J7o against vs laggy button open).

MP1 ($100) calls.

HJ ($125) calls.

Button ($225) calls.

Usually the table wouldn't give this much action, even to the laggy raiser, but I guess everyone has a little something.

Hero is BB with 99. Pot is ~$65. Stacks are small, so setmining ain't ideal, but I'm already getting 4+:1 in a very multiway pot. I can't fold, can I? I'm probably doing alright against raiser's range, so would an all-in squeeze play right now not be horrible? But raiser was burned for lottsa chips when he 3bet his cheese and then barrelled off all 3 streets with air (and was called by TP); it's possible he *might* consider tightening up, especially if he finally comes to realize that raising lightly and getting called in 3 spots might not be the way to go at this table.

So I call.

UTG shortstack then goes all in for $25 total.

Raiser just calls.

The three other callers just call as well.

Pot is now ~$140 and action is on me.

I shove, figuring no one has enough of a hand to call me and I'll be creating $100+ of dead money in the pot, so way +EV if in a coin flip against UTG, and probably even slight +EV even if she has me crushed.

Thoughts?

Gneverreallysqueezes,wonderingifthisisanokspotG

Your hand is basically face-up as 77-99 IMO.. it's an OK spot, just don't be upset when one of the other players happened to slow-play their 1010 and call you...

Agreed

depends how 99 fares vs their 3bet/calling and 4betting range
unless you are highly confident that you are flipping at worst, don't squeeze.

I don't think the two situations are really much different, since basically if utg is going to call 15, she might as well just push, and the others aren't going to fold for another 10. Surprised you were allowed to reraise here, since her all in is for less than the original raise. But as played, pushing seems good. Very good chance you're ahead/flipping.

Regarding being allowed to push due to reraise size: I might not have my raise / re-raise amounts totally correct (although it is in the approximate neighbourhood).

I would have preferred a squeeze the first time around. This one is pretty much face up now.

If the 2/5 guy is any good, it should be apparent to him that he is getting the correct odds to call your hand as well. If this was done initially, he can't be sure of that.

whoa just re read this
squeeze the first time round

FWIW this isnt a legal raise from the AI shortstack in my room. I would definately clarify the ruling with the dealer before doing anything. In my room after the raise to 15 in a x/3 game, the AI player would need to have 27 (Sees the 12 on top of the 3, moves AI for at least 12 more) before action reopened to everyone including the initial PFR.

Also, its very important to see whether the initial raiser knows this either. Its not impossible that they have a good hand but assumed the couldnt raise because of the size of the AI shove. If the didnt know they could raise, you can add probably JJ+ to their range which will change your quity dramatically vs their range.

Definitely raise the first chance you get. Make it 70.

Given that you failed to do that first time, definitely do it again the second time. I really don't think your hand is face up, it definitely isn't face up to people that aren't thinking about your hand and there is still not much they can do about it. It's not like the original raiser can correctly call with 67soooted.

well, the first time around, folding is never an option. I think the squeez would be on the lighter side of things, but it has some merit!

the 2nd time around, I think its to late for a squeez, cause by now, you prized the opposition in...

They've put in 25 and all have at least 75 more. How are they priced in, either in reality, or more importantly in their own mind?

Also, if 44 decides he's priced in then excellent, shovel them in.

wheee shqueeze first time around, super sick spot. gotta love dead dead monies.

Isn't $25 an under-raise so you can only call? Massive dealer error, no?

As you said, if there sizes were slightly different and you're allowed to ship it and isolate the short stack, then by all means go for it. Once the original raiser has flat called, I think you're well ahead of everyones range to be happy shipping it here with so much dead money.

shipping first time is borderline, second time is a must, even if your hand is face up its not like villians can do anything about it is there? They cant change their hand. The only hand that beats you is 1010, seriously.