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1/3: Line check, AA vs reg, 150 BB deep 1/3: Line check, AA vs reg, 150 BB deep

10-27-2014 , 08:12 PM
Hero ($430): Viewed as a nit by villain, but also aware of cbetting, position, etc.

Villain ($500): Tight, professional grinder, with too much experience. Mixes up his raise sizes from $10-$25 with premiums, sc's, and broadways. However, he hardly ever bluffs postflop and plays pretty well. Also, he loves to play suited connecting broadways, especially, KQs.

V raises to $10 in HJ, Hero raises to $30 with AcAs in CO, V calls

Flop ($64): Jc 9d 3c
V checks, Hero bets $50, V calls

Turn ($164): Qs
V bets $25, Hero raises to $100 (small so I can b/f as V is expected to play pretty straightforward), V tank-calls

River ($264): 3d
V checks, Hero ???

I doubt V is leading $25 OTT to induce, it's more of a blocker bet with Qx, club draw, etc. Infact, I can put V on a specific hand like KQcc here. V is tricky enough to have a full house here but I don't think he check/calls with a set on such a drawy flop/turn. He is also good enough to not call off a shove OTR with say, KQcc. Keeping that in mind, what are our river options? Against other villains, is this a standard shove? I just feel even most other villains are never calling a shove OTR with Qx.

Last edited by fizzypants; 10-27-2014 at 08:30 PM.
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10-27-2014 , 08:23 PM
Assuming stack sizes are correct, you have about 320 left.

Shoving is pretty bad unless you have reads that a player will stack off 150BB with TPTK. Since your read is exactly that, I like to target V's range of [KQ, QJ, QT, ...]. You're never really getting value from a busted club/straight draw, so if V has T9 or KXcc he's never calling.

We can either size smaller and try to induce, or we can size a bit bigger to comfortably b/f (if we know villain is not bluffy, which is what you said). In that case, b/f 140.
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10-27-2014 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by checkoslovakia
Assuming stack sizes are correct, you have about 320 left.
No, Hero has $250 left.
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10-27-2014 , 08:32 PM
There is no hand V has that beats you that doesn't 3-bet your turn raise.

Bet/call small for value and to induce.
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10-27-2014 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fatmanonguitar
There is no hand V has that beats you that doesn't 3-bet your turn raise.

Bet/call small for value and to induce.
Small is how much? $80? $110?
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10-27-2014 , 09:34 PM
$100 seems right to get a crying call from AQ/KQ/QJ and leaves enough behind that V may perceive some fold equity with a bluff raise (not counting on it though).
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10-27-2014 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fatmanonguitar
$100 seems right to get a crying call from AQ/KQ/QJ and leaves enough behind that V may perceive some fold equity with a bluff raise (not counting on it though).
What combos of AQ does he call the flop with OOP in a 3bet pot?

QJ maybe, but that's still a bit of a hopeful assumption for him to be calling OOP pre with those. Same with KQ, but we have reads that he likes that hand, so maybe.

As played, bet $125 for value.
If he shoves, puke and consider folding. He almost always has JJ/QQ when he shoves imo.
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10-27-2014 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
What combos of AQ does he call the flop with OOP in a 3bet pot?

QJ maybe, but that's still a bit of a hopeful assumption for him to be calling OOP pre with those. Same with KQ, but we have reads that he likes that hand, so maybe.

As played, bet $125 for value.
If he shoves, puke and consider folding. He almost always has JJ/QQ when he shoves imo.

You're right. Was thinking AcQc forgetting we held the Ac.
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10-27-2014 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
What combos of AQ does he call the flop with OOP in a 3bet pot?

QJ maybe, but that's still a bit of a hopeful assumption for him to be calling OOP pre with those. Same with KQ, but we have reads that he likes that hand, so maybe.

As played, bet $125 for value.
If he shoves, puke and consider folding. He almost always has JJ/QQ when he shoves imo.
Agree with everything. Also, I doubt he ever has JJ/QQ because he isn't bad enough to slowplay that ott if not otf.
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