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1/3 KK facing massive flop overbet 1/3 KK facing massive flop overbet

04-05-2016 , 07:39 PM
Villain is young, and hasn't played a hand in two rounds. This can seem like an eternity to a young player who wants action. I watch men in their 40's + start squirming and complaining when two rounds go by without a playable hand, and they should have more patience.

Lots of speculation here, but 9,8; 6,5, etc and the killing 55 or 9x are possible. I'm thinking overall we're ahead more often than we're behind.

Bored Villain may have seen your $25 as a feeler bet. He may also see you as gambly, and thought he could push you around depending on your action last two rounds.

I am calling, with silent whining in the background. It is what it is if he got lucky.
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04-05-2016 , 08:00 PM
I just snap this off 70bb effective, if he has a 9 or 55 or even AA, fine WP. This is more likely to be pairs <KK or just random crazy. I don't think this is a tough spot either, my experience suggests that spazzing from shorter stacks tend to be exactly that: spazzing. I won't be amazed if he's ahead but this is an easy call as described.
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04-05-2016 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Koko the munkey
Last night a guy shove $150 into a $20-ish pot. The board was AA3. He showed A3.

People are idiots.
People are idiots but natural human conditioning usually kicks in these situations.
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04-06-2016 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Curious
Since people are considering folding before snap calling, do we expect the rest of the 1/3 / 2/5 players to be snap calling here or is there fold equity?

say we think they have TT-QQ and we have a 9, does a push here get them to commit before a scare card can come on the turn?
With these stacks it is just fairly unlikely an overpair is going to manage a fold unless we both have super nitty images. Which is why jamming with 9x/55 (before an A/K/etc. scarecard comes) really isn't that bad if we are convinced they have an overpair.

Which also means we should *never* bluff here and attempt to get an overpair to fold.

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