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Originally Posted by Bigpants
In EP this is a fold because of the reverse implied odds. When we flop top pair it isn’t always good, and with the second nut flush draw we have no blockers to the nuts.
AP villains don’t PSB on the River with anything that isn’t value. I’m folding.
I disagree with everything here. We're 100bb deep, not deep at all especially when raise sizes are on the larger size. KJss plays completely fine from EP. Unless a lot of hands are being cold 4-bet (as in they don't actually have the hands to do it with but still do), then raising is standard. If we're getting a ridiculous amount of callers each hand, then maybe we can just fold but I would just increase my raise size. If that still doesn't do anything, then I'm fine with folding but I don't think I've ever had a game at least here where that's the case.
Flop is easy check, turn is check. Don't think I ever bet. People can get a bit trappy on turns that improve the preflop raiser and if you bet, you generally get a lot of credit for a king so the value is close to nothing and you don't need too much protection. if villains have a FD, they're probably betting anyway so you're only really worried about denying CO equity then but then if you bet, you can still get raised by them and you're in a rough spot where you have to fold.
River is check call nearly always without a read that villain just never bluffs rivers (there are some who just don't or have a certain sizing when they're bluffing) but with no info, everything bricks (apart from 65 but not very easy for him to have and also if hes too worried to bet the flop with that, he probably wont bet turn when he has an even high chance of getting called). We block QJ for the most obvious draw that always needs to bluff river but I think most people are just going to have a few too many bluffs here, we have one of the strongest hands we can have, occasionally we'll be up against a weaker suited king if he is too loose preflop and people tend to size up turn here with 2 pair, they're giving too good a price for still a quite vulnerable hand on this board.
So yes, well played.
