Villain in this hand arrived about 3 orbits ago. He's been very active. His buddy sat down 3 orbits earlier and essentially changed the dynamic of the table. I mention the friend here, because I have seen more of his play and they seem to be cut from the same cloth. Both are doing chip tricks, very aggressive, playing a lot of hands. Neither seems to be particularly good, but haven't gone to showdown with air either. Only hand my V has shown has been a very thin call for 1/3 of his stack with TP2K after an all-in and a call.

I have put in for a table change, because I don't like the feel of the game now. Basically I was in a rhythm and got disrupted, so I'd like to reset.

Hero has been playing very tight and I'm sure most of the table is aware of my nittiness, except V.

Quick reads on other V's:
UTG - capable of calling a significant pre-flop raise light
MP1 - incapable of calling a significant pre-flop raise light

Stacks:
UTG ~200
Villain ~225
MP1 ~275
Hero ~400

Half the hands have been straddled, including this one. In this hand I raised pre-flop with the intention of taking down the limps or getting HU with either of the aggro-buddies with position.

Hand:
UTG straddles
Villian UTG+1 calls $6
MP1 calls $6
fold
fold
Hero CO KJ raises to $36
Btn, SB, BB (buddy) fold
UTG folds
Villain says something like "okay, I'll see it" and calls
MP1 folds

Flop: Pot $88
J86
Villain quickly annouces $50 then counts it out.

No way this V limp/calls pre-flop UTG with QQ+. He could have sets, 2-pair, and AJ, though I really doubt this V leads any of those. I expect his lead is a draw or two overs.

He's left himself less than a PSB.

Hero?

As played you gotta get it in because stacks are so shallow, I limp behind here a fair amount, but once you raise pre you have no choice but to stack off here, which is why I probably prefer a limp pre

Shove for value. SPR is too low to play it any other way imo.

totally, limping behind allows you to keep the hand cheap, but as it was played I agree it's all or nothing at this point. Do you feel that if you find yourself in this spot a second time fold again? Does the villain see your PFR and is the Villain capable of getting you off a hand like KJ with a hand you beat? Would the Villain call OOP with J8? or pp8 or pp6?

it only leaves $139 in his stack; so $138 in the pot after his $50 bet, I think shove.

I'm either / or preflop. I don't hate overlimping here and just seeing a flop for relatively cheap in position with a nice multiway hand. But if a raise is going to narrow the field, I also don't hate that, especially since stacks are small and we'll be able to setup a brain dead SPR where we can stack off postflop with TP (although, flopping TP with KJ ain't exactly a monster, but it's probably good enough).

On the flop, we have an SPR of ~2 with TP2K on a drawy board. I think this is a trivial shove over his donk.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Thanks for your response.

I think you are essentially asking: After this hand, would you play KJs the same given the same situation?

The answer is almost certainly no. I raised PF because I have the nit-image to 5 of the 6 players behind me, and position if I get called. But, once we raise a straddle-fest we get marked. Nit-image no longer a factor in this spot. Villains don't like to get pushed off their straddle, so KJs isn't nearly enough to raise in that spot again. IMO.

This indicates to me that this is your only shot and that you are probably good here. Shove or get off the pot.

grunch: shove

not folding against a lagtard. if he's extra "tard" then you could go into call-down mode. but probably shove is better with the draw out there.

Grunching ...

The straddle essentially puts the eff stack at < 40 bbs. V calls UTG+1 with an agg image so I'd underweight AJ. Range is mostly sets/86/flush & str8t draws. I think he might CRAI with the top of his range so given the SPR I think this is a standard shove, though I'm not necessarily fist-pumping.

I like the raise pre, even more so in a straddled pot with the loose, aggro, not particularly good players as the BB and first limper. You will have strong equity against their calling ranges and easy SPR to play in position with initiative, and can dump it comfortably if someone shoves pre.

And then on the flop, definitely this:

So, if I shove he's got to call ~$139 in to an account of ~$327. If I am looking at this correctly, he's got about 30% equity. With his range, he would be correct to call. Are we "meh" to that point?

Villain would be calling $139 / ($327+$139), so yes equity is ~30%. It is one of those spots where both players may be correct. Clearly thin, you are usually never ahead by much imo.

I would just call on the flop and get it in on any turn card. Shoving might get him to fold his gutshots or bottom pairs that he led the flop with. I think shoving flop is a close second, and is also fine.

you playded this fine

call flop and get it in on any turn

calling is commting yourself so just dont worry about the turn and get it in

as the guy said above he may be doing this with some airish hands so just flat an dplay position