Hero on BTN ($150) - TAG

Just been for 25 minutes at the table. Table is pretty much fit or fold. I don't have many background info on the people. Some are a bit loose, but overall most are fit or fold.

V1 on SB (~$650) - No info. I assume average fit fold. Perhaps a bit tight preflop.

V2 on BB (~$350) - No info. I assume average fit fold.

V3 on UTG (~$400) - No info. I assume average fit fold. Perhaps a bit loose preflop.

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OTTH

V3 on UTG limps, Hero ROLs on BTN with K9 to $15, V1 calls, V2 calls, V3 calls.


Flop: K95 ($60)

Everyone checks to Hero, Hero bets $37, V1 instacalls, V2 and V3 fold.

Turn: 2 ($134)

V1 checks, Hero thinks whether check or bet, Hero opts to bet $65, V1 insta shoves, Hero is pot comitted and calls.

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Thoughts? How would you play this differently?

Hand is fine up to river. Turn sizing is perfect to set up the river jam. Never check river, idk why you’d consider that. Why did you bet $65 leaving yourself $35 back? Just jam yourself.

Probably just fold pre, I'm not very familiar with 50bb cash game opening ranges, but I don't think K9o is going to come close to an iso or overlimp from any position in any configuration.

As played just bet 40 on the flop and jam the turn. There's really no reason to leave $33 behind your turn bet.

I'm never going to hate too much on a Button raise after just one limp. But this hand is simply too weak for me, plus I think we're playing way too short a stack to be getting out-of-line. So I just fold here.

SPR is ~2 and board is drawy. We're fully committed and should attempt to get in stacks ASAP. At this remaining stack in terms of relatively smallish $ (just over one stack) in a 4way raised pot with a bunch of money in it, I might actually lean to a shove. It's an overbet in terms of pot size but I think we can get away with it here (similar to how we would have no problems overbetting $12 into a $5 pot); no one is folding a draw and this size stack can go in fairly easily. Otherwise, I would probably lean to at least 2/3 PSB to easily get the rest in on the turn.

Turn is a trivial shove with just a 3/4 PSB left; leaving a lol 1/8th PSB for the river is pointless. And trivial call as played.

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Pre is pretty bad considering you know nothing about V3.

Rest of the hand is fine.

One pet peeve of mine: bet in increments of 5 after the preflop action. It makes the game move faster. Nothing more annoying than a dealer having to make change for like 5 people because someone bet 22

I would play it the same and be quite happy we got it all in with top two on the turn

K9o in this situation for a raise is fine pf. It is at the bottom of my range, but something has to be at the bottom of your range. If you folded pf, that's fine too.

Agree with making the post flop bet with redbird increments. Make life easier for the dealer. As for the amount, it depends on what your "standard" bet on the flop. If you are in the old school "make it 1/2 PSB or more" then do that. If you are in the new school "make it 1/4 to 1/3 PSB" do that. Don't size your bet based on you have a good hand and you don't want a FD to come along. Turn is an easy AI bet.

If he had 55, he made the mistake in the hand, not you. Shake it off and move on. You want the villain calling your raises with 55 in this situation all day.

That was my reaction. I definitely wouldn't dislike the iso if we had a good read that V3 was extremely loose and had some knowledge as to his level of aggression. Without any info on him, I'm going to overlimp pre.


As played turn is an easy all in imo.

The problem isn’t K9o, it’s the information we have on V. With the connectivity of K9o we’re basically going to have to give up a good chuck of the time sometime postflop but we don’t know if V will bluff or call down light or even how much of his range that he limps that could dominate us. At 1/3, it’s not uncommon for some players to limp UTG with almost all of their range other than big PPs.

But maybe that’s just my style and not yours. I typically try to limit my potentially close decisions until after I have some reads on a player. A good chunk of my worst losses have come from having little information on a player and being put to difficult decisions

Idk what other people do, but I open K8o on BTN facing no limps. Facing a limp, I tighten my range and K8o becomes a fold. I consider K9o to be on the margins and can see going either way pre. I think K9o plays well enough against a fit or fold opponent, so I’m fine with the open. We’re looking to iso heads up and cbet glood flop textures (like Broadway-low-low). I’d consider overlimping a hand like K9s that has more postflop playability and prefers a higher flop SPR.

pre is whatever. If it's a mistake it's certainly not a very big one.

flop bet is fine but only if you shove turn. You left yourself the perfect amount to shove turn and deny as much equity as possible but then you left a bit behind and I don't understand why. If you want to play 3 streets of poker then bet something like $20 on flop to get max value from some of his really low equity holdings that might fold to a bigger bet.