Hero:
Just bought in 100BB about 15 minutes ago.
Have only been in one flop.

Villain:
Has over $600
Been in several pots
Has made large flop and turn bets
Has won several hands.

Small blind
Recreational player
$75 in front of him, non factor.

Table plays very loose-passive PF, and big bets come out post flop.

Hero, BB, JT

Villain UTG+2 limps
Another limper
SB raises to $8
Hero in BB calls $8
Villain and other player call $8
Pot $29

Flop: A Q 6

SB checks

Hero in BB ?????? How often do I bet? How often do I check?

Hero ends up checking
Villain bets $22
Other player & SB both fold

Hero??? I didn't know whether to fold, call or raise.

You cant fold. If you want to fold you might as well fold pre (which would also be a mistake for such a little amount)
Having just started and with no reads, i would just c/c and try to hit...if you raise you basically have to be prepared to put your whole stack on the line...not a great situation having just started against an unknown V, for all you know may only bet with monsters.

Raise to 70

call is an option, don't fold

Pre is fine.
Flop is fine as a check/call.

Raising would be ok if we had reads that he had a fold button, but without them, call, hit your hand and just get paid.

Specifically my question on the flop:

When other player and SB fold, now I'm heads-up and OOP, and have to call 75% pot bet.

There is no guarantee Viallain bets anymore if a third hits.

The only card I think that really pays me well is the K.

Plus, heads-up, I don't feel I have pot odds to continue. Is my thinking too nitty?

You don't have direct odds, but you have implied odds. With his $22 bet, there's $51 in the pot. You're getting between 2 and 2.5 to 1 odds on a call. The turn card is ~ 3 to 1 to make your hand. So, you don't need to exact that much additional money from V to make the call profitable.

Depending on what V holds, you could get paid huge on a king. Maybe V has nothing and checks back the turn and you get to see 2 cards for the price of one. Maybe V doesn't give you credit for a flush when it hits and pays you off. Maybe he's got a smaller flush. Maybe you hit runner jacks. Maybe you read V for weakness and bluff air on the river. Maybe V has AJ with the A and he'll put a ton of money in bad on the turn. There's a lot of ways that you can get money from V in this hand. You have way to much equity in the pot to just fold.

The c/c advice given here seems to be right. If you get one of the 12-ish relevant cards (the diamonds or a K) you're pretty much ready to go to the mat on the turn, right? If you've seen the other guy put big bets into a turn before, you can probably get some good action going on a 95-ish dollar pot. Do you feel like you can bet out for good money into a turn if your cards hit? Alternatively, if you don't get your card, and you check, does he attack again, or roll with it?

Prefer you lead flop. As played, just call. Don't raise because a decent percentage of the time you will get it all in drawing to 3 outs.

call and peel a card.

^^^

To all posters, what's your plan when we hit turn for the

a) flush?
b) straight?

Lead? C/C? C/R?

Definitely lead for value ~50.

Leading out is not what I would do..we have a strong draw but we are happy getting people to fold..i would chexknraise herr hoping he folds..would not mind a call as our hand equity is decent

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were you referring to my reply? that's in response to what i would do if we hit our draw OTT.