Hi all,

I’m brand new to the table. I’ve been here like half an hour. This table seems even more passive than a typical 1/3 game.

V: I have everyone covered with 400.

OTTH: 3 people limp to me in the SB and I have Jc 10c I usually HATE playing out of the SB but it’s been a limpfest so far. I complete. Bb raises to 15

Everyone calls. Ugh I call.

(75) Flop: Qd 9d 3h

I check BB bets 30 everyone calls. I call

(225) Turn Kd

I check bb bets 110 1 fold 1 call 1 call what do we do?

You have $400 and have everyone covered? How much does everyone else have?

The smallest has like 295 I believe

obvious kind of ****ty spot. it really hurts when the 4th diamond get there and really hurts shoving and putting it in dead.

obvious it depends how much the other stacks have.

they arleady put what, 165 in so if they started with 300 they have 135 left, so i would lean towards just shoving for that amount, hoping to get called by two pair and sets maybe even pocket aces.

if we are still playing 265 behind its kind of ****y, obviously being out of of position sucks to.

i think i am shoving and praying.

1 bettor and 2 calls? No flop raises on a wet board?

Given this action I'd be amazed if at least one player doesn't have a flush. I'd just fold.

Shoving could be interesting though, Maybe you get lucky and nobody has a flush.

Never calling here.

As mentioned above, try mention rough effective stack sizes of relevant villains (because it doesn't really matter what you have if not effective). I am probably not putting too much thought into anything but a fold here with cold calling 110 here seems really strong (Nut flush draw at minimum and likely made flush). If only vs initial bettor a jam could be better because of him having other strong hands here like sets and big 2prs but again. 2 passive villains here putting in 110 multiway on a super wet board. Likely very strong holds and making the exploitative fold.

Reads on the players involved is a must.

I need to know how limpets play their small flushes and if they stack off with them.

So you want reads that would require the observation of at least a hundred hands?

Someone has a flush here pretty often (what are they calling two streets of big bets with?), and if not then you still have a lot of cards to dodge on the river, and you might end up splitting the pot with another JT.

I'd fold but could be wrong, the price is really good. The difference between call and fold is small enough that I wouldn't have a lot of emotional distress if I find out I made the wrong decision.

i have changed my mind to call and pray for a clean river.

in my experience not too many villains would fold low flushes,

Folding and feeling good about it

With 2 calls before you you're looking at like a 75% chance someone has a flush already. If not you have a ton of cards you need to dodge anyway (board pair, diamond).

You can pick a better spot.

I'm fine with the initial limp. Yeah, it's not ideal as we'll be OOP (both harder to play and to get paid off postflop), but I still think it's likely a profitable overlimp so long as we don't play horrendously postflop.

I used to think calling closing the preflop action here was automatic. At moron-filled tables, it probably is. Otherwise, I'm no longer as convinced as I once was (mainly due to RIO against any non-moron who is cool with getting in their stack postflop when we make our "good" hand).

Looks like we're getting 6.5:1 to chase what looks to be a 6-outer, so we're getting about the immediate odds we need to chase and should have some IO. So I also check/call the flop.

I check/fold to the turn action. There's just too good a chance given this flop/turn action that at least one person has a flush (unless you're playing in one of the loosest lol postflop games ever). I mean BB is repping a big set at absolute minimum and yet 2 people don't seem to care.

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Snap fold