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06-27-2022 , 09:34 PM
Hand
V1 button $500

White guy 40s, looks like a business guy of sorts, bit of an ass. I bluffed him a few hands prior and he wasn’t very pleased.

Hero CO $350 effective. Just sat down 10 hands ago.

Raise to $8, hero calls with 10s jc

Flop ($45)

7h jh 9c

Checks around

Turn ($45)

6c

BB leads for $20, UTG calls, hero calls, V1 raises to $60. Folds back to hero. I call with the double gutter.

River ($185)
9s

Hero checks. V1 bets $100. Hero tanks for about 10 seconds. Shows a jack and then asks V1 if he wants a call. Just trying to get a read. 20 seconds later V1 calls clock. Table starts laughing a bit as it’s kind of a dick move and it hasn’t been that long.

Hero?

Last edited by DonkFishy; 06-27-2022 at 09:41 PM.
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06-27-2022 , 09:37 PM
I think this has been said several times to your posts.

Whoever has the biggest stack is not “effective”
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06-27-2022 , 09:38 PM
Double gutter of a post. You dont have double gutter
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06-27-2022 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by larry the legend
Double gutter of a post. You dont have double gutter
Sorry sorry 6c on the turn. Edited now
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06-27-2022 , 09:42 PM
Guy watched bet. Call call then raised flop for minimal amount. He either has impeccable reads or a set of sevens
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06-27-2022 , 09:56 PM
Write a more accurate hand history. Indicate the action by the utg and BB pre-flop. We discover they're in the hand only after you write up the turn history.

Calling an open by a UTG with JTo is just burning money. Fold pre.

I think you have to bet this flop with TPWK and an inside straight draw and then evaluate the turn.

Because of these mistakes pre-flop and on the flop, you're now in tough spots on the turn and river. I'm probably folding the river bet.
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06-27-2022 , 11:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DonkFishy
Hand
V1 button $500

White guy 40s, looks like a business guy of sorts, bit of an ass. I bluffed him a few hands prior and he wasn’t very pleased.

Hero CO $350 effective. Just sat down 10 hands ago.

Raise to $8, hero calls with 10s jc

Flop ($45)

7h jh 9c

Checks around

Turn ($45)

6c

BB leads for $20, UTG calls, hero calls, V1 raises to $60. Folds back to hero. I call with the double gutter.

River ($185)
9s

Hero checks. V1 bets $100. Hero tanks for about 10 seconds. Shows a jack and then asks V1 if he wants a call. Just trying to get a read. 20 seconds later V1 calls clock. Table starts laughing a bit as it’s kind of a dick move and it hasn’t been that long.

Hero?
Why do you feel calling the clock is "kind of a dick move" whereas you are OK with you showing one of your cards to try to get a read?
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06-28-2022 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Polarbear1955
Why do you feel calling the clock is "kind of a dick move" whereas you are OK with you showing one of your cards to try to get a read?
Oh just his attitude. He had been uh… well cussing out some players if they rivered him etc.
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06-28-2022 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by adonson
Write a more accurate hand history. Indicate the action by the utg and BB pre-flop. We discover they're in the hand only after you write up the turn history.

Calling an open by a UTG with JTo is just burning money. Fold pre.

I think you have to bet this flop with TPWK and an inside straight draw and then evaluate the turn.

Because of these mistakes pre-flop and on the flop, you're now in tough spots on the turn and river. I'm probably folding the river bet.
I normally wouldn’t but UTG was opening super wide. K5 off things like that. Probably still a losing play on my part though eh?
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06-28-2022 , 12:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adonson
Write a more accurate hand history. Indicate the action by the utg and BB pre-flop. We discover they're in the hand only after you write up the turn history.

Calling an open by a UTG with JTo is just burning money. Fold pre.

I think you have to bet this flop with TPWK and an inside straight draw and then evaluate the turn.

Because of these mistakes pre-flop and on the flop, you're now in tough spots on the turn and river. I'm probably folding the river bet.
Ah ok sorry will include that in future posts thanks!
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06-28-2022 , 12:34 PM
Need to more accurately describe what is happening preflop. If there's an EP / blinds raise to lol $8 (WTF?) and a bunch of calls and we're kinda closing the action, I don't think calling for this price is horrendous in LP. If it was raised right before us and we were the first caller, it's pretty meh.

I'd probably be betting this when it is checked to me. In very multiway pots there is very little checking-to-the-raiser (I'm not even sure where he is?), especially on drawy boards, as people just want to protect their hand. So we've most likely got the best hand and should likely bet to protect our equity.

I'm ok with just flatting the turn donk. Another card has rolled off that could have improved someone plus BB could have been waiting in the weeds on the flop. But we're getting a good price, in position, plus probably have some outs if behind.

Trivial fold to the turn raise. He shouldn't ever be getting out-of-line versus 3 opponents (even facing a weakish sizing). Pretty sure we only have a gutshot?

I'm check/folding the river and not doing any "read" antics.

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06-28-2022 , 12:51 PM
This hand is a mess. Fold PF, fold to the turn raise.

You also don’t have a double gutter, you have a gutter only.
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06-29-2022 , 10:03 AM
I'd be betting the flop. This is one of the best for our hand and we are betting for value against this field. Simplifies later action too so you don't level yourself.

Better description of the other streets, esp preflop? Don't know where the pfr came from, callers position, reads on other players...
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