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12-15-2013 , 09:00 PM
Probably check folding the flop. If he is as wild as you say, there will be plenty better situations than this one. You played it fine, just a bad board.
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12-15-2013 , 11:15 PM
Waiting to flop the nuts against this guy is probably the worst way to play him. And if that is your plan (though I disagree w/ it) why are you wanting to gii here?

It seems like you play a super tight, odds need to perfect, can't call here, better spot there, need a better read before I pay to see style, and one of the lags in the room is flat out owning you for it.

Instead of discounting his skill because he approaches the game differently, focus your energy on how to combat him. He's obviously not a bum if day in and day out he's the deepest stack at the table.

I think it's your overall mind set and attitude that's getting in the way here. There's some basic adjustments that you need to make that I'm sure other posters have alluded to already itt.

please do not bet/gii in this spot. Fold and move on to the next hand. I value reads as well, but I think you might not be using them in there proper context. This spot would be an example of that imo.
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12-15-2013 , 11:48 PM
He makes a living on wild bluffs, yet you let him take pots from you over and over because sooner or later you will have a big hand?


I couldnt get past that on your OP.
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12-16-2013 , 01:59 AM
Result:

I bet, he looks at the pot and instashoves.

Anyone?
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12-16-2013 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by attentionnoone

And now I have no idea what to do because I'm confident he will bluff raise if I bet.
If u r confident, then I don't see the question here, u did bet and he did shove...

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12-16-2013 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Oddhalo
There may be some"pros" hanging around the slots in vegas but afaik there aint no pros at 1/3...
it's harder in vegas but there are some, I can make about $25/hr as opposed to $30 at 2/5 but less variance

admit it's a difficult job tho

obv I folded but I think it was a mistake to bet in the first place based on the info I had at the time. I'd snap call HIM now

think I picked the nut worst play but oh well
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12-16-2013 , 06:16 AM
You are clearly getting too emotionally invested in this guy and how he plays. You are assigning "storytelling"-type narratives into your reads rather than objectively observing his hands/bet-sizing/positional awareness/iso-ing of other players/etc. Simply put, you don't like him, and you also fear him. This is fine, it's a very human reaction to have, but it's also a very bad set of circumstances that almost guarantees you won't be playing your A-game.

Imagine you were watching someone else in the SB play QQ in this hand, and they bet/called it off on this flop, and the Villain flipped over AJ. What would you think then? Wouldn't you immediately label that player as a calling-station fish who couldn't let go of a premium preflop hand on a terrible flop?

I'm not saying he's not bluffing you here some of the time (maybe even a lot of the time?). But I do think you are no longer objectively analyzing the situations, and you should probably get up and go for a walk.

We should never be looking to "get" people, or take revenge on someone for outdrawing us, or w/e other silly nonsense people get into their heads. Every hand that is dealt, you are presented with various pieces of data to make decisions with. It doesn't matter WHO you are playing against, it only matters what data you have about their actions and what kind of inferences you can draw. Then, with whatever data you can gather, you try to make the most +EV decisions. That's all there is to it. Remove your ego from your game, and you'll see that this is just a very standard hand where you made a good raise preflop and then ran into a terrible flop for your hand. No big deal, on to the next hand.

Now, if you had ACTUAL data based on sizings or timings or physical reads, something dependable that is telling you that he is going to airball bluff us on this board with ATC, THEN AND ONLY THEN is it okay to consider anything other than a c/f line on this flop. But all you have is a feeling that you are getting run over, that you should probably defend yourself sometime soon, and that you don't like this guy. None of that is actual data; it's noise, plain and simple.
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12-16-2013 , 10:02 AM
How much did you bet?
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12-16-2013 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by hfrog355
How much did you bet?
$60

If you really think about it, who raises this flop? Can't think of a single hand that is profitable to raise here except JThh.
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12-16-2013 , 12:25 PM
btw, I think the rank of the plays, based upon my reads, is

c/f>b/c>c/c>>>>>>>b/f

naturally I chose the worst option
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12-16-2013 , 01:23 PM
[ ] Villain is a $1/$3 pro
[ ] Villain makes his living on wild bluffs
[ ] Villain doesn't know squadoosh
[x] Maybe my read on this guy is a little off
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