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01-15-2024 , 04:24 PM
So, I thought about how I should have played this hand better. I don't have people to talk hands with, so I want to hear other people opinions.

Hand:

8-handed NL Texas Hold’em at MGM National Harbor, $1/$3 blinds. Holding A<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinonK<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinon in SB. UTG+2 and LJ limp, Button raises to $8, I 3-bet to $20. BB folds, 3 callers. Flop K<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinonQ<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinon4<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinon. I bet $60, UTG folds, LJ raises to $130, Button folds, I shove for $200 more.

I want some opinions on Preflop, and flop play And any other opinion.
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01-15-2024 , 04:30 PM
Need to go bigger pf this sizing is bad because the most probable result is you're going to play the pot oop vs everyone in a pot they are more committed to.

Post flop is kind of whatever depends on the villain getting it in is not terrible but vs most nits you probably just exploit fold when they are taising the 3 bettor in a multiway pot.
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01-15-2024 , 05:10 PM
Preflop should be larger, but flop sizing is fine, and yeah, this is a fine hand to stack off with facing a raise. (That’s assuming the flop isn’t monotone—I can’t tell what suits those are.)
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01-15-2024 , 05:33 PM
It's good to know that emojis don't work for future reference. But yes, that's what I was thinking. With preflop, I should have raised bigger $30-$40.
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01-15-2024 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by uptop_ave
So, I thought about how I should have played this hand better. I don't have people to talk hands with, so I want to hear other people opinions.

Hand:

8-handed NL Texas Hold’em at MGM National Harbor, $1/$3 blinds. Holding A<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinonK<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinon in SB. UTG+2 and LJ limp, Button raises to $8, I 3-bet to $20. BB folds, 3 callers. Flop K<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinonQ<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinon4<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinon. I bet $60, UTG folds, LJ raises to $130, Button folds, I shove for $200 more.

I want some opinions on Preflop, and flop play And any other opinion.
Hand: AsKs

Flop: KcQd4c

Turn: 9c

River: 2c

LJ: shows 7c8c

A bigger preflop raise would have probably got him out of there. Maybe??
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01-16-2024 , 02:00 PM
So you start the hand with $330?

I like offering poor 8:1 IO preflop, especially if I'm going to setup a spot where I'll most likely be committed postflop with TP+ (and a 3bet at these stacks will often do that). So that would mean a 3bet to about $50 preflop. Our 3bet size was *way* too small in that it offered insanely good 30+:1 IO to the raiser, plus created a multiway pot with a small SPR where it will be almost impossible not to play for stacks with TP (which is a horrible spot offering this good of IO). I'd actually rather just flat than 3bet this small amount (which will create a more manageable SPR of 11).

Really dumb postflop spot now with the SPR being 4 and anyone being able to make us play for stacks whenever they want. We just set ourselves up to make a massive mistake here so often, by either committing with the worse of it / folding with the best of it / letting draws get there for cheap in a big pot. I feel everything we do here sucks, so I avoid it by doing something different preflop.

As played, I really have no idea. I probably make a nitty fold to the raise as KQ / 44 and even big draws with lottsa equity are in play (although it turns out I would have made the wrong play, which isn't surprising since everything we do here typically sucks).

Gsetupabetterspotpreflop,imoG
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01-17-2024 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
So you start the hand with $330?

I like offering poor 8:1 IO preflop, especially if I'm going to setup a spot where I'll most likely be committed postflop with TP+ (and a 3bet at these stacks will often do that). So that would mean a 3bet to about $50 preflop. Our 3bet size was *way* too small in that it offered insanely good 30+:1 IO to the raiser, plus created a multiway pot with a small SPR where it will be almost impossible not to play for stacks with TP (which is a horrible spot offering this good of IO). I'd actually rather just flat than 3bet this small amount (which will create a more manageable SPR of 11).

Really dumb postflop spot now with the SPR being 4 and anyone being able to make us play for stacks whenever they want. We just set ourselves up to make a massive mistake here so often, by either committing with the worse of it / folding with the best of it / letting draws get there for cheap in a big pot. I feel everything we do here sucks, so I avoid it by doing something different preflop.

As played, I really have no idea. I probably make a nitty fold to the raise as KQ / 44 and even big draws with lottsa equity are in play (although it turns out I would have made the wrong play, which isn't surprising since everything we do here typically sucks).

Gsetupabetterspotpreflop,imoG

Thank you! This is exactly what I was thinking. I should have raised more preflop. I was thinking more of the lines of 40. The whole situation would have been avoided preflop with a bigger raise.

Flop: I felt like the only hand that beats me that he can show up there with is a set of 4s. I put KQ out of range based on preflop play (limp, cold call small 3bet)also with me having a K… So with so many draws out there, (flush and straight). And ppl now loving to raise their draws. I figured he had way more draw combos than set. A simple call would have been better than a shove, because most times I'm only getting called by hands that beat me.

I have been thinking about whether I should check there on the flop some percentage of a time being out of position vs multiple callers.


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01-17-2024 , 04:37 PM
Preflop go 30 at the absolute minimum but probably nearer 40.

Your opponent limped and then called a 3betnsonis obviously bad. This is either a jam or a fold. Depends if you've seen any bluffy aggression from him before. Against a bad player, neither jamming nor folding can be bad, although depending on what he shows either could make you look like an idiot. Don't call the flop.
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01-18-2024 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by uptop_ave
So, I thought about how I should have played this hand better. I don't have people to talk hands with, so I want to hear other people opinions.

Hand:

8-handed NL Texas Hold’em at MGM National Harbor, $1/$3 blinds. Holding A<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinonK<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinon in SB. UTG+2 and LJ limp, Button raises to $8, I 3-bet to $20. BB folds, 3 callers. Flop K<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinonQ<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinon4<img - hand: I have my thoughts just want other opinon. I bet $60, UTG folds, LJ raises to $130, Button folds, I shove for $200 more.

I want some opinions on Preflop, and flop play And any other opinion.
Raise bigger pre. I'd make it at least $35, if not $40.

As played, with 3 callers, I'd probably check flop, and see what happens behind me. If it checks to the BTN, and he bets, I'd probably check raise. If one of the other two players bets, and anyone calls, I'd probably just over-call, and look to play some turns, hoping for a brick run out.

LJ could have some KQo and 44 in his range, as well as club draws. His min raise stinks of thick value or a draw. I'd probably jam here, too, thinking that two pair or a set would raise larger.

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01-18-2024 , 11:51 AM
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Hand: AsKs



Flop: KcQd4c



Turn: 9c



River: 2c



LJ: shows 7c8c



A bigger preflop raise would have probably got him out of there. Maybe??
If he's any kind of player, he should fold pre if you 3B larger.

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