Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
1-3 flopped set value or beat 1-3 flopped set value or beat

03-25-2017 , 10:17 AM
I'm trying to see if I play this correct . I'm unsure if he vbet me or if I'm missing value.

V1($400): reg plays lots of hands stack has been from $800 to $200 over 4 hours. Haven't played with him much.

V2 ($500): reg likely break even. Plays loose pre but standard post flop. Played with him a few times. Seen him limp reraise utg with AA twice before. Likes big pots and action.

V3 ($250): fish calls down light.

Hero ($350): semi reg Tag 6bb+ winner. Has mostly show winners.

7 handed 2am

Hero 66hd


V1 $10 utg
V2 call mp
Hero call btn
V3 call BB

Flop 3sJs6c
V1 c bet $20, V2 call $20 HERO raise to $70
All fold V2 calls. ( Like $80 better)

Turn 10s
Check,check ( thought flush 75% hits him)

River 9c
V2 leads $50, hero ?

HERO is lost : is this a value bet from flush or blocker bet from Jx?
Fold seems to tight
Raise doesn't get called by worse?
Call is correct?
1-3 flopped set value or beat Quote
03-25-2017 , 10:28 AM
you gave up on the turn. bet the turn and evaluate. imo you can call on the river, you're good too many times here to fold.
1-3 flopped set value or beat Quote
03-25-2017 , 10:40 AM
You played the hand fine as long as you called the river. He will have the flush some percentage of the time but not anywhere often enough to fold. Based on your description of him he can have several 2 pair hands or 33 along with some flushes or maybe even AJ/KJ.
1-3 flopped set value or beat Quote
03-25-2017 , 10:54 AM
River is a call.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
1-3 flopped set value or beat Quote
03-25-2017 , 10:59 AM
Here is my 2 cents.

V2 Calls $50 into a pot of $151 After coordinated flop with Flush draw.
(Think about what types of hands would he do this with??? Does he chase draws? )

Flush comes and check check. (S/he either has flush or does not - I hate giving V2 a free card here! He could have AsJx).

River bets $50 into $201 pot. Based on info given, it's 75% value & 25% bluff.
S/He also might think they are ahead with various hands TPTK or TP? He might also have a low flush and might be blocking/probing to see if he is good here.

You were able to pot control turn...(as played)

You have a set - I think calling $50 is correct here. You are ahead too often in this spot.


**if he has/had flush, but not the nut flush, next time play hand same way with the nuts and reraise river and get your chips back!
Conversely, if you fold a Set here - you are setting yourself up to be pushed around.

Next time you have a set, if you don't want to face this tough decision on a draw heavy flop...Charge V2 more if they are chasing draws.

I hope you won!
Good Luck!

Last edited by Johnnyreno; 03-25-2017 at 11:10 AM.
1-3 flopped set value or beat Quote
03-25-2017 , 11:10 AM
There's $40 in the pot on the flop, with a $20 bet and a call in front of you, and you raise to LOL-small at $70 giving odds to pretty much all draws.

I'd have made the raise to $100-120 instead.
1-3 flopped set value or beat Quote
03-25-2017 , 11:44 AM
Flop 120 jam all turns. You don't have a raise/fold range on this flop so no point pretending you do.

V2 turn range... assuming he has a flush 75% is nitty and nowhere close to reality. Let's give him a range of ALL flushes inc 92ss etc, plus then by extension all Jx hands and 45. We are 75% vs that range, almost all of which will keep calling. So bet is mandatory.


Sent from my SM-A310F using Tapatalk
1-3 flopped set value or beat Quote
03-26-2017 , 01:25 PM
Thanks for the feed back. I called river.

He had 33 for bottom set as MikeStarr correctly ranged him. I would have thought 33 gets in on the flop but I was wrong.

I should have rasied more on flop to $90ish and either bet $150ish on turn (higher variance) or used my current line for low variance play. Feedback is split on this.
1-3 flopped set value or beat Quote
03-27-2017 , 11:47 AM
I also call preflop. But I'm also not in love with it either. I'm beginning to question whether setmining in smallway pots with small pairs is really worth it.

I like giving poor 2:1 odds for draws to chase, so I'd raise the flop to $120. Weak hands will fold, but draws won't fold the flop, so let's just go after the hands that will call a raise. This will also setup a $300 pot with us having $220 (so easily committed on any turn card, so we'd be shoving even this poor turn card).

Thanks in part to too small a flop raise, turn is kinda awkward in that we have $260 left in a $200 pot and yet can perhaps not be comfortable getting in these stacks on this card.

As played, never folding the river getting 5:1. The argument is whether we should be raising for value. Against most opponents who will never get out-of-line to a river raise, we might want to bump it a bit just to get more value. Having said that, yesterday I bluffed raised the river (with the best hand, lolz) and got 3-bet bluff shoved on, so taking the conservative route and calling is never bad.

GcluelessNLnoobG
1-3 flopped set value or beat Quote

      
m