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1/3 Flopped Flush - Did I get it in behind vs range? 1/3 Flopped Flush - Did I get it in behind vs range?

08-06-2018 , 08:50 PM
Game setup: $300 Max Buyin, no straddle, 9 handed.

Villain - Asian female 35 y/o, competent although might not be a reg, $650 stack. Seems aggressive on the streets, hasn't shown any big bluffs though.

Hero - White male, 27, sat with $300 have $450 stack after an hour. Probably had PFR 23-27% 9 handed after an hour. Villain has seen me play for an hour and called me the "table bully" while preflop in a pot she had already folded in (I raised). EDIT: I should mention that after she said this she later (but before the hand in question) respected a c-bet and folded when I missed the flop entirely, making me feel like she wasn't relying too heavily on her limited image of me.

9 Handed. Villain UTG Raise to 15 (12-15 is normal for the table), Hero HJ 3-bet to 45 with 7c5c. Folds to villain who flats.

Flop: 10c8c2c ($88 post rake)

Villain: Check
Hero: Bet $45
Villain: Raise +$100 to $145

Hero ?

What range do you give villain here and what action do you take?
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08-06-2018 , 11:13 PM
What are you doing pre?
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08-06-2018 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AClb5
Game setup: $300 Max Buyin, no straddle, 9 handed.

Villain - Asian female 35 y/o, competent although might not be a reg, $650 stack. Seems aggressive on the streets, hasn't shown any big bluffs though.

Hero - White male, 27, sat with $300 have $450 stack after an hour. Probably had PFR 23-27% 9 handed after an hour. Villain has seen me play for an hour and called me the "table bully" while preflop in a pot she had already folded in (I raised). EDIT: I should mention that after she said this she later (but before the hand in question) respected a c-bet and folded when I missed the flop entirely, making me feel like she wasn't relying too heavily on her limited image of me.

9 Handed. Villain UTG Raise to 15 (12-15 is normal for the table), Hero HJ 3-bet to 45 with 7c5c. Folds to villain who flats.

Flop: 10c8c2c ($88 post rake)

Villain: Checkop
Hero: Bet $45
Villain: Raise +$100 to $145

Hero ?

What range do you give villain here and what action do you take?
Why are you 3betting this hand pre vs a utg open? Fold pre

Tough to give advice here because I'm not in this spot too often. I feel like people play super face up on montone boards which means he has a lot of flushes almost all of which beat you.

Seems incredibly nitty to fold here but thats why preflop is so bad. You flop your flush and still don't feel good here because every possible flush he could have beats you. Give him AcKx AcQx KcQc QcJc TT 88

not sure if he also does this with QcQx or JcJx but feel like he would just check call.

I feel like I would just sigh call because I wouldn't know what else to do, curious what others say.
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08-06-2018 , 11:47 PM
Pre is clicking buttons but never folding postflop.
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08-07-2018 , 01:20 AM
^ +1
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08-07-2018 , 01:34 AM
this is like 1/2 a step below fist-pimp GII. no idea what your question is op.
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08-07-2018 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jc315
this is like 1/2 a step below fist-pimp GII. no idea what your question is op.
I've heard about the fist-pump, but what exactly is the fist-pimp? LOL

For OP, serious button-clickage PF against the UTH open, especially with the image you've described yourself as having. Once you're here though, nothing to do but GII .
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08-07-2018 , 03:27 AM
Buckle up buckaroos


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08-07-2018 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by branch0095

For OP, serious button-clickage PF against the UTG open, especially with the image you've described yourself as having.
+1
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08-07-2018 , 04:39 PM
I would just fold preflop.

I would shove as played. If we ran into a bigger flush, that's what we get for 3betting 75sooted preflop. But she can still easily worse hands like TT/88 or big pairs + flush draw.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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08-07-2018 , 08:30 PM
At this stack depth I tend to really open up my suited connector play as it's so easy to stack people with this type of hand. Anyways, I see why it should be a fold pre usually. Although I will counter by saying I'm certainly not 3 betting this hand every time, I'm folding it in many situations pre. I think 3 betting here some fraction of the time we can still be balanced. Always folding this hand and never 3 betting it is probably exploitable, board coverage yada yada. Why 3 bet Tc9c every time and never 7c5c. There has to be value in bluffing with some frequency with each hand. Especially at 150 BB effective, we should be playing more hands with nut potential.


Result: I jammed, she snapped, had TT and I held.

People suggesting flatting: what is your plan on the turn and river?

Last edited by AClb5; 08-07-2018 at 08:38 PM.
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08-07-2018 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AClb5
People suggesting flatting: what is your plan on the turn and river?
Easy. Shove any card that is not a club or doesn't pair the board. Calling the checkraise brings the pot up to $378 and Hero has about $255 behind. V won't be getting the right odds with a set or AcX, but many Vs will call anyway.
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08-08-2018 , 12:46 AM
I like the 3bet raise preflop but don't think this is a good spot to do it. As well, there isn't much made flush in V's 3bet calling range and our 3bet perceived range. Showing 7c5c i feel might have gave V a shock too and I'm expecting V to adjust to us after this hand. I would be trying to get it in ASAP because even if V shows up with a bigger flush this time, in the long run we will still be even against V
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