1/3 Facing Weird PF Shove with JJ
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Playing 1/3 NLHE
$300 effective stacks
Limper UTG
Limper UTG+1
Limper from MP
Indian guy raises to $21 from the Button
Hero wakes up with JJ in the SB
Raises to $65
Big blind folds
Limper UTG folds
Limper UTG+1 Shoves AI for $300 and change (she has me covered)
Folds to the button, who also folds.
Action on hero, what would do? What do you put Villain on?
Hero has been playing TAG style. Haven't been re-raising much PF. Did a re-steal once with K5o from the SB once, but no one saw the hand as everyone folded to me.
Villain is a 20-30 something Asian woman. Seems to lean towards the more passive side of the spectrum. She has been doing a lot of open limping in EP, but this is the first time she has made a limp, re-raise move in 2-3hours of play.
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i think this seems like a fold, regardless of how hes played
a passive over 2-3 hours suddenly limp 4! AI probably isnt on AK
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Wow, what do we even do here with KK? Might just be a fold with KK also..
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AP we folded.
Villain showed AhKh
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We need ~38% equity to call. We wouldn't even have that against a range that includes all QQ+/AK.
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Any reads on Button raiser?
I might just flat the first time around. There's not a crapload of dead money to go after relative to stacks (unlike say a raise + 3 calls). A call will mostly create a 5way pot at my table, but I mostly just ~setmine and that should be ok.
I fold to the limp/4bet pretty easily. She's seen a raise plus a 3bet and is yet perfectly fine playing for non-short stacks. Some of the time she might play AK this way (but I doubt all the time) and a passive player just ain't going crazy with TT- enough.
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grunching.
For the $21 dollar open, I almost always assign this type of raise with like 6-10 in the pot almost always 99-JJ (maybe QQ sometimes, and a rare AK) - it's sort of the type of raise fromt his type of villain that says "this is a tricky hand and I don't know how to play it post flop"....then in comes this other villian as you describe over the top for 300 and I am assinging her NOT AA/KK because if she was first limper, maybe, but I don't see it with limping in behind. I think she has more like AJ (bottom) - AKss (top) of her range, or perhaps, even a 88-1010 type holding.
Still, she's a more tightly perceived Asian female and I am going to probably just fold because I have 21 dollars invested in this pot and at best I am flipping vs. AQss-AKss
probably and easier fold for most but i tried to at least give my thoughts on it.
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Reason: Plus 38% equity vs. range we do not have it. Math bros!
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I feel like this is an easy fold, Ace King won't always shove in this spot, so we're looking at bigger pairs mostly, with Ace Kings suited thrown in there. So you're at 25-36% equity. You've got to call 235 to win 374. We're getting 1.6:1 so we need about 38% equity just to break even. We need to put TT or AQ in her range to justify calling.
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I feel like jamming 88-JJ would be an epic punt in this spot. I think most people realize that and aren't going to do it unless they are an epic action player.