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01-05-2015 , 09:42 PM
Villain is Solid thinking player, not many hands with him

Hero is Loose Aggressive in most pots played

Each player has seen each other a couple times and have a little bit of a feel for how each other play.

HERO BB K9s 450
Villain Button 600
UTG raises to 15, MP calls, Villain calls, Hero calls
Flop K39r Pot 60
Hero checked dark, utg checks, MP checks, villain bets 15, hero raises to 75, fold, fold, villain calls
Turn J pot 210
Hero checks, villain 150, hero calls
River 2 pot 510
Hero checks, villain all in has hero covered effectively bets 240
Hero?

Written on phone sorry for formatting. What's villain got? Should hero fold the turn or the river or at all? Looking for opinions on all of the hand.
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01-05-2015 , 10:06 PM
We started with 450.

After our 15 pre, 75 on the flop, 150 on the turn, we have 210 left.

To win 740.

Are we good more than 22% of the time here?

Probably.

SOME of the time he is doing this with a weaker hand than top 2.

Crying call, yes he will show you 99 and 33 sometimes, it happens.
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01-05-2015 , 10:10 PM
We are rarely going to be shown 33/99 here.
Much more often KJ/AA/KK.

As played, I'm calling the river.
We are getting a great price with a very good hand on this board.

But I'm folding pre flop.
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01-05-2015 , 10:15 PM
More thought
There's only:
6x KJ
3x 33
1x KK
1x 99
3x lol JJ
So, 14 combos of hands that beat us (and it's less than that really)

Getting 3.52:1 we need him to have 4 combos of anything else for this to be a +EV call.

Although, I suppose it's possible he could have QT here. But if he has QT, I think he's bad enough to have AK here some.

So, yeah, call it off.

But fold pre flop.
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01-05-2015 , 10:17 PM
fold pre... we are OOP, suited 3 gapper is bad in general.
dont check dark, just check. people gets suspicious when suddenly we show aggression after checking dark.
turn, easy shove due to image, pot to stack size and he aint going anywhere.

having K9 as a blocker here we can safely eliminate KK & 99, so he probably have AK here most of the times. 33 isn't normally a 5x open from a solid player UTG.

if we are beat, he most likely have JJ.
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01-05-2015 , 10:21 PM
V could have hit a straight on the turn to. I think hero is beat too often to call.
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01-05-2015 , 10:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adios
V could have hit a straight on the turn to. I think hero is beat too often to call.
but solid players dont normally call a naked gutshot vs a x/r OTF.
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01-06-2015 , 01:06 PM
I think this hand is just too weak to play preflop to a raise, especially OOP, plus has high RIO (which is why I don't play 3 gappers). Easy fold, imo.

Never check dark. Why purposely forfeit an option?

I would have donked the flop and hope there's a big K out there that can't fold.

I don't understand our check/raise play (again, checking dark is so bad). Are we attempting to get opponents to fold worse hands? When Villain calls our huge check/raise and continues on the turn, I'm actually starting to worry that we've been coolered. I'm strongly considering making a hero fold, although obviously this is a difficult spot with so much money now in the pot, plus our image.

ETA: Keep in mind that Villain was an overcaller preflop (I believe this changes the range most people are giving him).

GcluelessNLnoobG
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01-06-2015 , 01:19 PM
fold pre about 110% of the time

the rest is good if you called river
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01-06-2015 , 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adios
V could have hit a straight on the turn to. I think hero is beat too often to call.
not trying to be a dick but

where did you post 17,315 times?
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