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02-06-2015 , 08:32 AM

coreyd

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 167

Hero 600
V 200 no history new to table.
Limp limp v raise to 7?? LP hero button call a6o call call.
Flop 336 checks to me I bet 20
Fold fold v calls.
Turn q
V less for 35. Hero???

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02-06-2015 , 08:49 AM

Notam

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 396

Fold. With no history here, I'm giving V credit for a Q (AQ, KQ most likely because of the PF raise). You're way behind and he's afraid you're going to check behind.

Oh, yes, almost forgot. Fold Pre. I'd sometime open A6o from the button, but what's the plan with this into a raised pot? If the flop is 6 high, you're TPTK is vulnerable to over-cards, if the flop has an A, you're exposed to THREE OTHER players having a better kicker.

BTW, just lost my "fold pre" virginity. Haven't had an opportunity to say that until just now. Oddly, it wasn't as rewarding as I thought it would be. Nice, but somehow not as awesome as I expected.

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02-06-2015 , 09:12 AM

coreyd

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Lol. Yeah I had to somewhat balance out what was soon to be a nitty image. And yes half of my table are paying attention to that stuff

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02-06-2015 , 11:29 AM

AbqDave

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,649

Yeah. Some of us have to be told and some have to learn for themselves. Sadly I am one of the latter, would hate to add up how much it cost me to learn how worthless dominated aces usually are at this game. Maybe 6max or HU is different, but this ain't 6max

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02-06-2015 , 01:33 PM

Sebastes Pinneger

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Fold pre and we avoid all these kinds scenarios where we hit the Flop but are still lost and without a plan.

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02-06-2015 , 01:45 PM

Notam

journeyman

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Originally Posted by Sebastes Pinneger

Fold pre and we avoid all these kinds scenarios where we hit the Flop but are still lost and without a plan.

I think lost without a plan would be a great name for a band! Their hit single "All I Have is an Ace and a Rag" will shoot to #1!!!!

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02-06-2015 , 01:57 PM

cheesefist

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Snap fold pre.

As played, easy fold.

Also, just fold.

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02-07-2015 , 07:04 PM

coreyd

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Originally Posted by AbqDave

I feel you

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02-07-2015 , 07:05 PM

coreyd

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 167

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Originally Posted by Notam

I think lost without a plan would be a great name for a band! Their hit single "All I Have is an Ace and a Rag" will shoot to #1!!!!

Gave me an idea

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02-09-2015 , 12:35 AM

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Notam

journeyman

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Originally Posted by coreyd

Gave me an idea

Royalties waived. Good luck!

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02-09-2015 , 12:54 AM

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kekeeke

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,306

The famous c/c, donk turn line is always value from someone who called pre. Dunno what he reps as a PFR. 66 33 A3 AQ KK AA is his value range and it's a damn narrow range, if you have a read V is aggressive I might turn my hand into a bluff and raise small expecting a badly played pp and some spazzy airballs with over to our 6 to fold. Maybe he doesn't fold 99-JJ so a raise is not that good, need reads to do anything else but muck.

Since hes unknown I'll give him credit.

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02-10-2015 , 03:07 PM

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gobbledygeek

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 36,170

A6o is barf, I'm never playing this hand passively to limp/call into a pot as it simply won't make anything worthwhile enough. With no history, I think this is a trivial fold preflop. With history/image, I could perhaps get behind a 3bet.

As played, I also bet the flop as it's likely our vulnerable hand is best.

I would fold the turn. Villain's line is weird, but in the end he raised preflop, called our flop bet, and then donked the turn; he's voluntarily put in money on 3 straight streets on a pretty much drawless board, so I highly doubt our low pair is good.

GcluelessNLnoobG

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