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HERO/SB(400) Young 20s white, villian should have no info other then the han prior to this one I raised button to 20 over several limpers and then bet 2/3rds pot into a 6way flop on KT2r.

Villian/UTG(250) Middle aged asian guy dressed bussiness casual. Came to table full, has limp/called a few times and folded flop.

V limps
2 others limp
Hero raises SB to 20 with AQ
V calls rest fold

HU
FLOP(49) JK9

HERO?

If we Cbet, are there any turn cards we should double barrel (exluding T)

Whats the plan if a turns?

Do we play all hearts the same way?

I Cbet $30ish here 100% of the time HU. Villain is a rec player that appears to be playing "fit or fold". Even if called, we currently beat most FDs and SDs, and have lots of equity against many pairs. I plan to double barrel very often. Cbet/eval seems the only appropriate line.

V could have 56 or some 44 here. Seems like an easy c-bet heads up. I'm not big on double barreling these boards though unless you pick up some kind of tell. I'm betting an A or T, and that's about it. I'll check/eval a heart. Even when you get called in these spots I'm surprised at how often the hand checks down and MHIG because V called flop with some weird draw and missed everything.

Cbetting a small amount can get immediate EV from random garbage folding (we're gonna get tons of respect on this board as a SB opener), and it keeps plenty of pair+GSSDs in his range so we can get more folds on futures streets and so that our pair outs (at least our A) are a bit cleaner.

I expect two pair+ to raise this flop almost always, so I'll barrel any heart or card 7 or lower. I'd bet a heart hard and mostly give up on the river, and I'd bet a low card for ~1/2 pot and shove the remaining $150 on a river that doesn't pair the board or complete a 4-straight.

This is a D- cbetting board.. So much continues and you have a gs to the nutz... Cmon

It's not a great board in general to just bet once at. Consider that:

1) Our range is super strong, and villain's range is not so strong. Even if we don't plan on doing anything more than making a $15 stab, we can get him to auto-fold 88-, black SCs, etc enough to get immediate EV. (We should only do this with a small %age of our range, and that should be the rare times we have complete air here).

2) We have a great hand to bet and barrel (arguably one of the nut barrelling hands), and this is a dream board to barrel.

Can someone explain why are we barreling if called on flop?! I think they're never folding Kx type hands on brick turns, and hearts are easily a part of their range so if a heart hits, how is it a good barreling card either?

His entire range isn't Kx (in fact, your post admits this). He'll call with a lot of second pair+GSSD hands, some pure SDs, some pure FDs, etc and that's a ton of combos when compared to KQ (9 combos) and KT (12 combos). (There's also Kx where x is the turn card, but this will be 2 or less combos on non-heart turns).

Besides, KT and even KQ aren't auto-calling down, even if the board completely ****s the bed. They'll certainly call the flop and turn with these hands, but once they go unimproved and we're forcing them to make a $150 decision, they're going to put us on AK (or JJ/KK) a *ton* here.

There are certainly times when he'll station down because he's committed* and/or because all draws missed, but when villain has a wide range, even the top of which they're tempted to fold, then you have yourself a good spot to barrel.


*NOTE: Many players who believe in pot commitment will prefer to shove turn with KQ than call it because if they're gonna put all their chips in, they might as well price out draws on the turn.

Hearts is a major scare card if he doesn't have hearts. Sometimes villain will call flop thinking we may be on a flush draw but then when the flush hits they can't beat anything.

Ah is very important and having it affects which hands villain can have, which hands villain can call with and which hands the villain can perceive us to have.

Are you barreling the heart because flushes make up such a small percentage of his range (if he limp called with SCs and since the suited broadway KJ are aready on the board it makes it less likely he has a high flush draw) and also becuase you have picked up a nut flush draw increasing your equity? By saying you wont shove a paired river is that because it decreases the number of combinations of hands that can help our hand?

I think heart draws make up a small enough percentage of his range, not so much due to how much they're blocked (though that certainly helps), but because of how bloated his flatting range is with second pair type hands that can't withstand a lot of heat past the flop. The fact that we'd have 6 outs to XYhh and 13 outs to KxQh, of course, makes it so that we wouldn't need too massive of fold equity anyway.

I'm not willing to triple once a heart hits because 1) it drastically increases the number of hands he's willing to stack off with, and 2) serves as a good enough scare card that we can get much of his TPMK to fold to a hard bet right there, so that a river barrel would be slim pickins by then anyway.

Because there are so many hand combos of 2nd/3rd pair in villain's range that are willing to call 1-2 streets (and because it's so unlikely that we ourselves would bet two streets with any value hand worse than AK), a K/J/9 river would help villain's range much more than our own, so our bluffing frequency should go down overall. To play GTO, we should still leave some combo of bluffs bladdy bladdy bladdy, none of that matters against described villain anyway, I just wouldn't really bluff him on that run out.

Alternatively, this particular hand has enough SDV on completely dud runouts that we can just plan to bet blank turns very hard and check a non-heart river figuring we'll take the pot some (I expect described villain to just check back and say, "I missed" more-so then he'll bluff shove air). I might actually prefer to do that with the nut-high hand, but I just don't think that we have a ton of combos of bluffs in our range anyway, unless we raise A8s/SCs pre.