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Originally Posted by Tomark
Ive found 1/3 typical raise size is $15. 2/5 typical raise size is ALSO $15, and 5/T typical raise size is $25.
I wouldnt say its effectively the same in that difference is pretty stark though because we call way more at 5/T and 3 bet way more at 1/3. Which i know you agree with
I see $10-$15 opens at 1/3, and $15-$25 at 2/5, but also oddly smaller or bigger opens at both stakes. Probably see more $20 opens at 2/5 than $15, but none of that is to say I don't agree.
My point to OP was mainly to consider the opens as a truer indicator of the game size, and to do that, I just backed into what the hypothetical blinds would be if the opens were 2.5bb to 4bb, and didn't want to confuse things by referring to a game size that doesn't exist, like a bb of $6.33 or $12.75.
The underlying thread is to consider stack size as a multiple of open size, not a multiple of bb size, and adjust accordingly.
I see how people can get mentally stuck thinking about the game size as being small because the "official" blinds are small. Many players don't know how to adjust to straddles or bigger opens in these "small" games.
When I played 1/3/12/24, $3k deep, the min-max buy in was still $100-$500, so guys were sitting down with $100-$200 and losing it all in the first hand they played, then reloading for another $100-$200. They didn't realize they were only buying in deep enough to play one hand. If they understood that, they'd play their entire range as fold or jam pre. They were over-limping for $24, not realizing the rest of us with deep stacks were limp-rr'ing to $300, because all the opens were coming from the blinds/straddles, and the standard opens were $100+. We didn't see a flop more than once an orbit. That's not a 1/3 game.
When I played 2/5/10/20, $1500 deep, it was still a $200-$1k buy in. Guys were coming to the table to sit down with $500, but stopping and standing there, as they wondered if they were rolled for the game. If they thought longer than 10 seconds, I'd say, "no one here is rolled for this game." Guys were flatting opens in MP or limping from LP just to put in back-3B's/4B's over the aggros on the BTN or in the blinds. $700-$800 stacks were getting it in pre-flop every other hand. That's not a 2/5 game.
If OP is $1k deep in a game where guys are opening to $40 and getting three or more callers, QJs isn't in our calling range pre, unless he's come prepared to buy in multiple times, and is prepared for wild variance.
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